Why does no one drift mustangs?

I'm sure its nothing to do with the fact that it handles like crap sideways anything above 30mph without a couple thousand dollars worth of suspension and not to mention 240flywheel horsepower isnt that much power for that much of a car
 
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horrible steering angle and response. bros owned 4 of them. ive slid all of them lol. torque is a blessing. but steering is just not there. wish i could go back when he had them and modify the steering. would have been a fukn machine.
 
Im building one now. There super light and power is cheep and reliable. Mine is a 1990 5.0 H.O
 
Quick look at the mustang mechanically.

They make great drift cars if you set them up right. But it takes alot of time, money and engineering to do so. Their weight is a big problem (not in the 93 and earlier models, their pretty light!) and it is really hard to get it down if the car is to be still daily street driven because alot of the things that make the chassis safe and strong have to go. Everything that can be, must be fiberglass or lighter. The distribution of the weight is another huge issue. The typical rotational axis of the mustangs is generally right behind the engine. This makes it VERY nose heavy and gives it the tendency to want to loop around on you all the time. So you need to address that. I am currently sitting just over 4000lbs, WAY heavier than a 240. The easiest way is with moving what you can to the trunk (like I have an entire cooling system back there holding 5gal of water, helped ALOT!) and lightening up the front with a new K-member and LCA's (Those are only $1000 tho, no biggy right?) Now that were on topic of suspension... Coil-overs are a must, but are very expensive compared to the 240s. I paid $2000 for a 3rd best brand on my wish list. Thats just the coil-overs! Now your talking alot more $100-$200 hits here and there for the rest of it, front and rear LCA's($350), K-member($650), Bushings, Swaybars, Tie-rods. Brakes?? You cant touch a decent new big brake (14") kit for less than $2000 (FRONT ONLY) You dont really need them in 94+ unless you get real serious because upgraded stock parts will do, but just letting you know. Now if you have 93 or earlier you need to get 94+ spindels and axils to get 5 lug. Can be cheap if you junk yard it but you wont find anything to pull off because its all gone by now. and its not just putting the brakes and whatnot on. The 93 earlier master cylinders wont work with the newer brakes so that has to be updated to. Plus the suspension for the older cars if a tad more than the newer stuff. Now the biggest draw back to the 2004 earlier mustangs is the angle... there is none! With a 7" wide rim backspaced out away from the frame as much as I could get without special ordering I have modded my rack and my spindles and with spacers I am hitting my frame. I have close to if not less than what a 240 has stock. I have to hit every entry dead on the money because I am riding almost full lock the whole drift. Theres no room to fuck up because you will spin. Everything about the car is fighting you the whole time. The power helps but with the cars mid drift stability in question it can hurt more than it helps when your learning. You cant just throw it in a turn and if you go in to hard just turn the wheel some more and correct it because there no more to turn. Its an uneasy feeling to have doing 90mph+ entries at PBIR. Now 05+ mustangs are a whole different story. They were made for it. Power, somewhat affordable suspension, decent chassis weight, and lots of angle!!! Their stock angle is way more than my car modded and when you start playing with it its comparable to a 240 modded. They are a very good drift platform, their just newer and more expensive to buy. So said and done it takes time and patience to work on and learn how to drift a mustang and its a piece of cake to drift the 240s. So someone hops in a mustang finds out it harder then hops in a 240 and in comparison the dame thing almost drives its self imo. Ive drifted several, the 240's easy to drive so thats why its so popular. This is just my look on the situation having delt with my mustang for 4 years now. Oh one more thing Ill take the IRS over the Solid axle any day of the week. Properly setup it is so much more stable and predictable in the higher speeds. Just one more thing to have to upgrade if you dont go cobra from the start. Now I'm by no means saying its not possible or trying to stray people away from it because I've been doing it for years I'm just answering the question of why yo dont see alot of them from a mechanical standpoint.
 
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Uhhhh, straight axle. Modifying suspension is crazy expensive, stuff like that.


I'll post a vid in a couple days.

yea what? two upper links to adjust pinion angle?
lower control arms for roll center?
and some coilovers?

done.


people told me 300zxs are horrible drift cars, why? they share the same susp as a s chassis, I drift the shit out of mine with no problems. And if there is a problem you modify it and make it work.

People are scared and listen to idiots, dont be afraid to research and try things on your own.
 
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People are scared and listen to idiots, dont be afraid to research and try things on your own.

People are scared because their challenging to drive.

Dude forget that Solid and trade it with a sissy cobra owner that wants to dragrace and get you a pimpin IRS:bigthumbu

I wanted to build a mustang. but I got a a 5.0 and a 240, and am gonna make them have sex.

oh Doug...... lol
 
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yea what? two upper links to adjust pinion angle?
lower control arms for roll center?
and some coilovers?

done.


people told me 300zxs are horrible drift cars, why? they share the same susp as a s chassis, I drift the shit out of mine with no problems. And if there is a problem you modify it and make it work.

People are scared and listen to idiots, dont be afraid to research and try things on your own.

If they are such great platforms and whatnot, why isn't fd and d1 and any
other series filled with them?
 
^Because they are not as good as other platforms. But just because there are not being used by everyone doesn't mean that their bad cars.. Their just not preferred. There are several 05+ chassis drifting around in various pro series's, but overall no there are not outstanding numbers of them currently... they are gaining popularity tho.
 
If they are such great platforms and whatnot, why isn't fd and d1 and any
other series filled with them?

Well if you're referring to Z32's, there are. Satoru Koyama

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if mustangs had better steering angle, and the suspension wasn't so expensive, then i'd be drifting mine... but i still love 240's so i'd probably have both anyways.
 
i know 79 to 04 are pretty much the same ...but could a cobra rear irs be fitted on say...an 86 5.0. lx coupe?
The 79-93 are the same and the 94-04 are the same but the two different groups are very different in alot of ways. Mostly engine, suspension, and brakes but yes the newer IRS should almost bolt in. It bolts in place using the solid axle bolt in mounts which have almost not changes since ford made the mustang.
 
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