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[VFMedia.TV]

Just keep doing it! Driver's will love you for it and also considering you were the only guy i saw out there filming you are their only hope lol :thumbup: a shot i would like to see is someone get on the trailers and film the entry and exit. I'm sure we can make that happen lol

Thanks...the very first car shot in the video was of me in the golf cart following bert as he entered into turn two

 

[SweetMotionFilms]

^ I dont see how anyone started measuring cawks on this thread...But you still make a good point, we all do this for the fun and the lolz.

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I always share these videos on g35.com, g37, and my350z

Man you made that really hard to respond to on my phone.

As for crediting. It exactly what you said, common practice not the law. Also I don't see anywhere that he said he completely created it from scratch. He also didn't say it took home 15 hours recreating the intro. It took him 15 hours for the complete edit. Which actually isn't bad. Especially since I saw some color correction on some scenes.

And as for critiques being opinion. They are. We don't follow set scripts or have rules to abide by. It's all creative and one off. So anything anyone has to say about it is their opinion. If a video isn't completely stable, maybe that's what they were going for. I personally don't like 100% tripod super stable videos. There is something I enjoy about a video you can tell wa shot handheld. I'm sure everyone knows Stephen brooks. He only owns one tripod and it's for his jib.

So in my opinion. It's all just opinions.

I forgot what else there was and thi is a PITA on my phone so that's all for now lol

Keep in mind I'm not targeting anyone or upset. Just being an exterior point of view. Since every kind of jumped on Chris all at once.

 

[s0loWkooPi]

Yeah it's an after effects template.

OP didn't make it. You can buy or download those templates online and add your own material.

Video wasn't bad though, just way to shaky, maybe try using tripod, glidecam or even mono pod in the future to smooth out the shots.

Really?

http://youtu.be/Z7q9xMCkpvU


I've used templates before too man, but don't try and take credit for someone elses hard work when all you did was change the text feilds and add your logo.

You could of atleast changed the audio...

I posted awhile and mentioned I've used them, they are a great base, and way to learn, I usually modify them or change audio, effects, feilds etc. And when asked I always tell people what I used, where to find it and tips on working with after effects.

You are coming off like you spent ALL this time to create this intro when in fact it takes about 15 minutes to change text feilds. Even when mentioned template you just said yeah "lots of plug ins and HOURS" when in fact that template does not use any templates. Doesn't use Solar flares, doesn't use twitch or twixtor.

It's not a question of what you did, it's the question about how you are trying to play off your "Hard Work" and 15+ hours of "editing"

Dude.... just stop digging.

You and I quote "First time using after effects" and you just happen to re-create the particle layers Exactly how they appear in the template. For anyone who has ever used after effects or simply just opened the program, they know how BS this statement is.

Just stop.

No ones here to hurt you, we want to see you improve and get better, everyone enjoys a good video. Just give credit where credit is due, and don't lie.

/rant

lol considering I just joined. I did post a video I made years ago and I also posted one I made 2 weeks ago, but since you seemed to have missed it here it is again.

Autobahn DVD Trailer ~ BsaintMedia - YouTube

Usually meets/car shows are parked cars.

I do film other things though feel free to look around on my youtube.

Youtube.com/bsaint

Who the fuck are you? Bro, your work is mediocre. Sit the fuck down.

 

[VFMedia.TV]

Man you made that really hard to respond to on my phone.

As for crediting. It exactly what you said, common practice not the law. Also I don't see anywhere that he said he completely created it from scratch. He also didn't say it took home 15 hours recreating the intro. It took him 15 hours for the complete edit. Which actually isn't bad. Especially since I saw some color correction on some scenes.

And as for critiques being opinion. They are. We don't follow set scripts or have rules to abide by. It's all creative and one off. So anything anyone has to say about it is their opinion. If a video isn't completely stable, maybe that's what they were going for. I personally don't like 100% tripod super stable videos. There is something I enjoy about a video you can tell wa shot handheld. I'm sure everyone knows Stephen brooks. He only owns one tripod and it's for his jib.

So in my opinion. It's all just opinions.

I forgot what else there was and thi is a PITA on my phone so that's all for now lol

Keep in mind I'm not targeting anyone or upset. Just being an exterior point of view. Since every kind of jumped on Chris all at once.

Appreciate it...

To Everyone: I know that I am still new and still developing myself. I love Stephen Brooks work and that someone that i ask to critique my work and ask for advice..

As a new videographer you have to try out alot of different styles and make your own and still definitely in that phase.

I respect all criticism and take it in stride

Kris you are what we need to have in the field and someone who gives the criticism thats needed to help others progress. We are all looking to get better at what we love to do.

 

[Evo]

Sorry for instigating this if I did. I enjoyed the film and any media is good media for the most part with drifting. I like seeing people getting into it for the first time and media like this shows the grassroots and how it should be, its not million dollar cars and million dollar sponsors. I think its cool that kids want to watch for entertaining, but I like to see the grassroots because its what gets the kid to go to an event. Its what pays the entry fee bills and spreads the word to new guys. I think the coolest part of grassroots is seeing new kids come out for the first time. Then the whole car ride home they are talking about it. The next day too. So on and so forth, its an amazing feeling that is pretty unique to drifting.

I wasn't at the event this round, but I hope to be next time, I'll have my new camera by then and hope to see you there. Sorry if I came off aggressive but I think it was obvious how passive I was being from the get go.

In regards to Go7roo7 and B-saint;
Not saying nobody else here other than these guys is professionals, but in the professional atmosphere, all credit is given when needed. Yes, technically on the template downloads they say free for commercial or private bullshit bullshit. They still want credit, and if they don't, you fucking give it out of respect. Its what shows the difference between the kid fucking around on a program he got off a torrent, and a pro bringing home the bacon.

With that being said, I've recently been taught (going to professional studios for school related shit) that its proper to do things from scratch, and if not and you used a model for reference, or a template and just changed the simple shit, or used a tutorial and all of their resources (Riot Gear. Twitch etc) You give credit. Thats what you have end titles and credits for. Thats why that part of film is there. "CREDITS"

You can do what you want, but that is a miniscule but important detail that divides people with cameras playing with afterfx tuts from people actually making media in a semi to full on professional scale. Or it at least the respect that comes with it. I understand this is just a simple drift video and you all will argue that its just not needed, but if you plan on going anywhere with this, be wary with this stuff.

In fact, some sites, like vimeo will full on delete a video if its reported plagiarism, and if repeatedly occurred, delete an account. Youtube as well. Its common and happens daily.

I'll make sure to back my shit up and get to the next event. Thanks for the video and the time you put into it. I look forward to future stuff from you to see what you fine tuned.

 

[Roly D Sauce]

Who gives a shit. The dude went out there, and made a video of the event. Bsaint all youve done here on this forum so far, media wise, is post a video that you made a year ago and post other peoples work. And as for you Evo all you have done is gone around and try change other peoples stuff and post some video that you claimed you spent hours trying to stablize but didnt really do anything to try to keep the image quality up to par.

Its harsh words, but dont go around trying to bash on other peoples stuff when you have made no such effort yourself. Critcism is one thing but trying to make it a pissing contest is another.

And chris so you used a template and didnt credit. Just make note of it next time thats it.

 

[Roly D Sauce]

I'm not sure where to start on this. If you don't feel like reading this in its entirety, it basically says people need to stop being hypercritical and chill the fuck out. I'm also not responding directly to anyone or quoting. This is a general statement. Mainly because I'm too lazy to be proper...

First of all. Where on any of the sites that were sourced from say you must give credit or anything of the sort? They are considered donations to the community. Even if you pay for them they still are not required. Sure it may be something most people do but it is not required. All Personal Preference. Movies have every person in it credited and waivers signed... does anybody do that? HELL NO. It's all non profit.

Now If he was charging per view or selling as a DVD then that's a different story...

I have absolutely used Video copilot tutorials, and even re-created the same exact clips they show. It's all good practice. Is that wrong? Not at all, I could be retarded but I could have swore that is the reason they put them up? and it's exactly why they make templates for people to put their own text in? Maybe I missed something with that...

And Please one of you go open, lets say AUTOCAD(assuming none of you know how to use it.) and create me a simple, everyday, ordinary spoon in 3D. WITHOUT looking at any tutorials or instructions, or asking anyone how to do it. Pretty hard right? Meow go look up a tutorial and do it... Pretty easy right?. Now you could probably branch off into other stuff right?

Now if you take longer then I do to create the exact same thing then I am going to tell you it doesn't count because there is no way it takes that long to make a simple spoon...

Now why does it matter how long it took him to edit the intro? There aren't time limits. Everyone has a different pace of learning. Geez.

And nobody has to have done something, in order to criticize someone else. If something looks like shit, they are allowed to say it does. It's all an opinion. What you decide to do with their critique is up to you. Just because someone hasn't done what you have, or had to deal with the shitty quality, or shakiness, or overexposure. Doesn't mean they can't blatantly see it. And call you out on it. ESPECIALLY when you ask for criticism.

All of my shots used to be shaky and overexposed. People kept telling me. So I tightened that shit up!

Now as for the actual video and not the BS taking place after.

Video was good in general.

Was a bit shaky. I could tell you used warp stabilizer on the chase scene but you could have used it on a few other scenes and done a lot of good. Especially the scene after the chase with Rodd hiding(standing normally) behind the barrel.

@1:05 Holy tits.

I can't remember what you shoot with, but I'm pretty sure it's Canon?

I will HIGHLY Recommend a LCDVF. I bought one and was very skeptical but I can tell you it has been the best investment I have made besides buying the camera itself. Helps tremendously with the shakes and also help you focus quicker and more accurately.

I have the CarrySpeed one. Got it on Amazon I think. It's cheap enough to where if you don't like it, it isn't going to be a regretful waste of money(20 bucks). However you do feel kind of weird using it. Especially with the 50mm as people always seem to thing you are holding the camera backwards? Idk lol

Also I rented a fancy Zacuto Z-Finder pro and I didn't like it compared to the carryspeed one. At least not for the price difference.

Also Something that would help your shots tremendously is some better glass. A shallower DOF would really set some of your shots off. Just try renting a lens once. There really is a huge difference in quality. If you need any help picking something out just hit me up!



And the thing that pisses me off more than anything. Especially lately now that everyone and their mothers are filming these days. Nobody is better then anyone else. Everyone is always learning and improving. Some people need to get off their high horses. This isn't a competition. We all do it for the same reason. Have fun with it.

i saw him with one....

 

[Bsaint]

Who the fuck are you? Bro, your work is mediocre. Sit the fuck down.

Would love to see some of your work "Bro" since you seem to be the expert critic?


And to OP never mean't to "attack" you, like go7roo7 said critism online can be misconstrued as an attack. Only trying to help you progress and learn from each video. Like I said early on stability seems like an issue on the video.

And coming from a video camera to a DSLR myself I know what it can be like. One of the things I did early on was picked up a simple flash bracket. Cheap and effective, very similar to a DSLR "cage" but 1/3 of the price, it allows you to spread your hands out further and stabalize footage a lot easier. Also another cheap alternative is a mono pod, because I know with drift events and motorsports events it can be a pain carrying a heavy tripod from corner to corner. The mono pod is great for getting fast panning shots and also the extra weight on the bottom allows to balance the camera a little more.

I'd be happy to bring some equipment out to a future drift event.

 

[go7roo7]

Who the fuck are you? Bro, your work is mediocre. Sit the fuck down.

Someone needs some trolling lessons it seems...

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Man you made that really hard to respond to on my phone.

As for crediting. It exactly what you said, common practice not the law. Also I don't see anywhere that he said he completely created it from scratch. He also didn't say it took home 15 hours recreating the intro. It took him 15 hours for the complete edit. Which actually isn't bad. Especially since I saw some color correction on some scenes.

And as for critiques being opinion. They are. We don't follow set scripts or have rules to abide by. It's all creative and one off. So anything anyone has to say about it is their opinion. If a video isn't completely stable, maybe that's what they were going for. I personally don't like 100% tripod super stable videos. There is something I enjoy about a video you can tell wa shot handheld. I'm sure everyone knows Stephen brooks. He only owns one tripod and it's for his jib.

So in my opinion. It's all just opinions.

I forgot what else there was and thi is a PITA on my phone so that's all for now lol

Keep in mind I'm not targeting anyone or upset. Just being an exterior point of view. Since every kind of jumped on Chris all at once.

Well since OP is starting out I cant blame him for taking a lot of time. Color corrections is up the shooters discretion, and how much to change. To me when op said 15 hours of work, it made it seem he worked on the intro for 15 hours.

Since that whole topic has already been beaten to death with a lightsaber, I did not mean that stating your template sources was a law ( my fault since I wasn't clear on that) I simply meant that its good practice, since ONE DAY someone may use your work as their own, and the tables might turn.

I haven't gotten mad at anyone's comments, so :bigthumbu

 

[MacMurphy]

Would love to see some of your work "Bro" since you seem to be the expert critic?

Oh no it has started:corn::corn: :threadjac:corn::corn:

 

[go7roo7]

Popcorn

 

[Roly D Sauce]

Bump

 

[Evo]

Bump

LMFAOROFLMSDOMSOLOKWOOPIDFNKBSUCKSASDKJNDICKFBN

 

[s0loWkooPi]

Ohhhh I get it. You guys don't know what mediocre means. Haha holy shit.

LMFAOROFLMSDOMSOLOKWOOPIDFNKBSUCKSASDKJNDICKFBN

Last time I checked your opinions meant squat in here, but I'm glad you joined the peanut gallery so sit back and shut your face before I fuck it.

 

[Evo]

I dont care what my opinions value, especially to you. You are such an internet badass, man.

I heard rumors you were into dudes, but no thanks I'm straight.

 

[Pancho]

I dont care what my opinions value, especially to you. You are such an internet badass, man.

I heard rumors you were into dudes, but no thanks I'm straight.

rumors or facts?

 

[Bsaint]

Ohhhh I get it. You guys don't know what mediocre means. Haha holy shit.

.

:gayfight:

All I've seen from your threads is you posting other peoples videos, so please I'd love to see some of your work?

I honestly could care less if you think my work is "mediocre" you're no one lol

I have enough people that would say otherwise, and if I can make parked cars look exciting...imagine when I start coming out to drift events.

So keep running your mouth troll

 

[NismoTuner21]

I honestly could care less if you think my work is "mediocre" you're no one lol

No one!? Are you kidding me? Leo is a fucking S-chassis sensation. He may not know anything about videography, but that doesn't matter. All that matters are his paramount conclusions.

 

[Pancho]

No one!? Are you kidding me? Leo is a fucking S-chassis sensation. He may not know anything about videography, but that doesn't matter. All that matters are his paramount conclusions.

 

[Roly D Sauce]

:gayfight:

All I've seen from your threads is you posting other peoples videos, so please I'd love to see some of your work?

I honestly could care less if you think my work is "mediocre" you're no one lol

I have enough people that would say otherwise, and if I can make parked cars look exciting...imagine when I start coming out to drift events.

So keep running your mouth troll

i happen to be one of those 2k+ subscribers since like 09?



/nutswing