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[VFMedia.TV]

Yes and it took me hours to correct it in after effects seeing that this was my first time using after effects.

I have just taken a look at your "video" on your -- site -- and you DID NOT give credit to the templates that you used ALL throughout your video. So dont come across like you do the same.

To set the Record straight it IS NOT an industry standard to state of/where you got a template. Maybe for a Movie yes

If you arent going to post criticism about the video that you dont use yourself then leave them to yourself.

 

[go7roo7]

Yeah it's an after effects template.

OP didn't make it. You can buy or download those templates online and add your own material.

Video wasn't bad though, just way to shaky, maybe try using tripod, glidecam or even mono pod in the future to smooth out the shots.

Really?

http://youtu.be/Z7q9xMCkpvU


I've used templates before too man, but don't try and take credit for someone elses hard work when all you did was change the text feilds and add your logo.

You could of atleast changed the audio...

I was being polite.

Thats why my "orrr?" implied. I'm not taking away from the video which I thought was awesome, I just thought I was watching Andrew Kramer for the intro.

Good work and keep it up.

PS; if you use a template, make sure to link that in the credits. Show credit where its due.

ಠ_ಠ OP you seriously just edited the template file and called it your own??
As a working artist I look down at this move of yours....

so the 15 hours of "work" was you figuring out how to add some + texts and splicing the videos together, have the balls to say you used someone else's work. And dont say " It took me 15 hours cause I was following tutorials". No wonder I was asking in my head how much you paid A.K for the AE file...

 

[Bsaint]

Yes and it took me hours to correct it in after effects seeing that this was my first time using after effects.

I have just taken a look at your "video" on your -- site -- and you DID NOT give credit to the templates that you used ALL throughout your video. So dont come across like you do the same.

To set the Record straight it IS NOT an industry standard to state of/where you got a template. Maybe for a Movie yes

If you arent going to post criticism about the video that you dont use yourself then leave them to yourself.

I posted awhile and mentioned I've used them, they are a great base, and way to learn, I usually modify them or change audio, effects, feilds etc. And when asked I always tell people what I used, where to find it and tips on working with after effects.

You are coming off like you spent ALL this time to create this intro when in fact it takes about 15 minutes to change text feilds. Even when mentioned template you just said yeah "lots of plug ins and HOURS" when in fact that template does not use any templates. Doesn't use Solar flares, doesn't use twitch or twixtor.

It's not a question of what you did, it's the question about how you are trying to play off your "Hard Work" and 15+ hours of "editing"

 

[go7roo7]

Yes and it took me hours to correct it in after effects seeing that this was my first time using after effects.

I have just taken a look at your "video" on your -- site -- and you DID NOT give credit to the templates that you used ALL throughout your video. So dont come across like you do the same.

To set the Record straight it IS NOT an industry standard to state of/where you got a template. Maybe for a Movie yes

If you arent going to post criticism about the video that you dont use yourself then leave them to yourself.

Umm what did you "correct"? The font? Last time I checked it doesnt take that 15...and I doubt you paid for particular plugin...so to me it just looks like it took you 15 hours to be a script kiddie...

Actually, I work in the industry and yes it is standard to credit when you use templates. and you don't certainly "edit" someone else's work (AKA TEMPLATE) and call it your own...If you use a template for a movie you don't deserve to be called a VFX artist....

"I" personally make all the AE files by hand, my last video took me 3 hours to edit ( including stabilization buffering times), but seeing how shaky your video is I am sure you might not know how to accomplish this.




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I posted awhile and mentioned I've used them, they are a great base, and way to learn, I usually modify them or change audio, effects, feilds etc. And when asked I always tell people what I used, where to find it and tips on working with after effects.

You are coming off like you spent ALL this time to create this intro when in fact it takes about 15 minutes to change text feilds. Even when mentioned template you just said yeah "lots of plug ins and HOURS" when in fact that template does not use any templates. Doesn't use Solar flares, doesn't use twitch or twixtor.

It's not a question of what you did, it's the question about how you are trying to play off your "Hard Work" and 15+ hours of "editing"

^ This.

 

[VFMedia.TV]

Correction the template does require plugins such as the 12 different particle layers required for the intro to look correct. Such as the RedGiant Trapcode Particular 2.1 since I dont have cash to spare -- I SPENT HOURS RECREATING THE PARTICLE LAYERS TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL TEMPLATE.

So unless you know the time involved DO NOT COMMENT... which coincidentally is BOTH OF YOU

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where is any of my Bios do i call myself a VFX artist...LOOK AT THE LOGO IT CLEARLY STATES FEATURES - EVENTS - DOCUMENTARIES.
NOT VISUALFX ARTIST BY ANY MEANS

 

[Bsaint]

Correction the template does require plugins such as the 12 different particle layers required for the intro to look correct. Such as the RedGiant Trapcode Particular 2.1 since I dont have cash to spare -- I SPENT HOURS RECREATING THE PARTICLE LAYERS TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL TEMPLATE.

So unless you know the time involved DO NOT COMMENT... which coincidentally is BOTH OF YOU

Dude.... just stop digging.

You and I quote "First time using after effects" and you just happen to re-create the particle layers Exactly how they appear in the template. For anyone who has ever used after effects or simply just opened the program, they know how BS this statement is.

Just stop.

No ones here to hurt you, we want to see you improve and get better, everyone enjoys a good video. Just give credit where credit is due, and don't lie.

/rant

 

[Elliot G]

Who gives a shit. The dude went out there, and made a video of the event. Bsaint all youve done here on this forum so far, media wise, is post a video that you made a year ago and post other peoples work. And as for you Evo all you have done is gone around and try change other peoples stuff and post some video that you claimed you spent hours trying to stablize but didnt really do anything to try to keep the image quality up to par.

Its harsh words, but dont go around trying to bash on other peoples stuff when you have made no such effort yourself. Critcism is one thing but trying to make it a pissing contest is another.

And chris so you used a template and didnt credit. Just make note of it next time thats it.

 

[VFMedia.TV]

Look at the first quote you copied and it says I used plugins that took hours to do 15 to be exact....that is why it took me so long.

Seriously guy if you look at any of my videos or any who knows me i am always asking for Constructive Criticism..and Not someone doubting what work i have put into my video and there is a Big thick line separating the two.

Plain and simple.

 

[go7roo7]

Correction the template does require plugins such as the 12 different particle layers required for the intro to look correct. Such as the RedGiant Trapcode Particular 2.1 since I dont have cash to spare -- I SPENT HOURS RECREATING THE PARTICLE LAYERS TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL TEMPLATE.

So unless you know the time involved DO NOT COMMENT... which coincidentally is BOTH OF YOU

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where is any of my Bios do i call myself a VFX artist...LOOK AT THE LOGO IT CLEARLY STATES FEATURES - EVENTS - DOCUMENTARIES.
NOT VISUALFX ARTIST BY ANY MEANS

I am glad you can copy/paste the name and version of the plugin used by the person whose work you used as your own. I actually DO know the time involved into creating particle systems in AE ( as well as in other applications) as you are unaware from my last post, THAT is my day job.

Besides your blatant inability to read, YOU stated that:

"To set the Record straight it IS NOT an industry standard to state of/where you got a template. Maybe for a Movie yes"

Which is where I stated that

"Actually, I work in the industry and yes it is standard to credit when you use templates. and you don't certainly "edit" someone else's work (AKA TEMPLATE) and call it your own...If you use a template for a movie you don't deserve to be called a VFX artist...."


As you can clearly see, I was disproving your statement. Both in the first part where you say that you dont need to credit template ownership, AND clarifying that IN MOVIES (per your comment) a VFX artist(not you)does his own work and dont use templates.
Its obvious that you have reached a level of butthurt that is inhibiting your ability to process words.

 

[Bsaint]

Who gives a shit. The dude went out there, and made a video of the event. Bsaint all youve done here on this forum so far, media wise, is post a video that you made a year ago and post other peoples work. And as for you Evo all you have done is gone around and try change other peoples stuff and post some video that you claimed you spent hours trying to stablize but didnt really do anything to try to keep the image quality up to par.

Its harsh words, but dont go around trying to bash on other peoples stuff when you have made no such effort yourself. Critcism is one thing but trying to make it a pissing contest is another.

And chris so you used a template and didnt credit. Just make note of it next time thats it.

lol considering I just joined. I did post a video I made years ago and I also posted one I made 2 weeks ago, but since you seemed to have missed it here it is again.

.

 

[go7roo7]

Who gives a shit. The dude went out there, and made a video of the event. Bsaint all youve done here on this forum so far, media wise, is post a video that you made a year ago and post other peoples work. And as for you Evo all you have done is gone around and try change other peoples stuff and post some video that you claimed you spent hours trying to stablize but didnt really do anything to try to keep the image quality up to par.

Its harsh words, but dont go around trying to bash on other peoples stuff when you have made no such effort yourself. Critcism is one thing but trying to make it a pissing contest is another.

And chris so you used a template and didnt credit. Just make note of it next time thats it.

Yes he made a video. We are not trying to attack OP in any way shape or form. We are trying to "encourage" OP to give credit where its due ( LIKE in his blatant use of a AE template)

This isnt bashing, if you go to art school and you copy someone elses work and the prof catches you YOU ARE ON PROBATION FOR COPYRIGHT ENFRIG.
I know, I have been there and seen it (not personally, with other students)

Constructive criticism is saying things OP may not like, about work, technique, etc. We are just warning him that not giving credit will hurt him and his cred in the end. No hard feelings.

Look at the first quote you copied and it says I used plugins that took hours to do 15 to be exact....that is why it took me so long.

Seriously guy if you look at any of my videos or any who knows me i am always asking for Constructive Criticism..and Not someone doubting what work i have put into my video and there is a Big thick line separating the two.

Plain and simple.

Dude, we arent trying to attack you, we are trying to warn you that what you did was not right. MY FIRST COMMENT WAS " HEY NICE VID!!"

I think your video IS good, just give credit man and dont lie.

 

[VFMedia.TV]

I am glad you can copy/paste the name and version of the plugin used by the person whose work you used as your own. I actually DO know the time involved into creating particle systems in AE ( as well as in other applications) as you are unaware from my last post, THAT is my day job.

Besides your blatant inability to read, YOU stated that:

"To set the Record straight it IS NOT an industry standard to state of/where you got a template. Maybe for a Movie yes"

Which is where I stared that

"Actually, I work in the industry and yes it is standard to credit when you use templates. and you don't certainly "edit" someone else's work (AKA TEMPLATE) and call it your own...If you use a template for a movie you don't deserve to be called a VFX artist...."


As you can clearly see, I was disproving your statement. Both in the first part where you say that you dont need to credit template ownership, AND clarifying that IN MOVIES (per your comment) a VFX artist(not you)does his own work and dont use templates.
Its obvious that you have reached a level of butthurt that is inhibiting your ability to process words.

Since you are in the field of DSLR video I would hopefully assume then i would assume you know Phillip Bloom and other associates like him and yes I have spoken to him and other well known in the industry and they do use other templates in there short film and DO NOT state them.
In their feature length films such as MOVIES yes they do because those more so have a credit ending.

 

[Bleak]

flame on

 

[VFMedia.TV]

Alright lets put it this way in future videos I will state if I got a template or not and any other needed credits. go7roo7 im not meaning to attack you in any way I realized your point of view.

Just the Saint guy first impression was of not constructive criticism but of attacking.

 

[Kensi]

Awesome video Chris!

Sweet video Chris. I'm fat.

fat = awesome? :ghey:

 

[go7roo7]

Since you are in the field of DSLR video I would hopefully assume then i would assume you know Phillip Bloom and other associates like him and yes I have spoken to him and other well known in the industry and they do use other templates in there short film and DO NOT state them.
In their feature length films such as MOVIES yes they do because those more so have a credit ending.

I am not in the "DSRL VIDEO" industry. I have worked with studios and private contractors as a 3D and VFX artist. My "hobby" is shooting events and editing em on the weekend. I know how PB is, alas I have not had the pleasure of speaking to him as you claim to have had. Their short films have dedicated AE artists, and if they use a template they ARE required to state their source. NOW! if they take a source AE file, and edit it to shit where in no way shape and form it resembles their original purchases source template, THEN! they are not required to publish sources.

The latter is not your case, since its obvious that "your 15 hour edit" and the source video are appear 90% identical. Your excuse that you " wanted it to look the same" is exactly that, and excuse. I understand you are probably new at the AE world, but dont start like this.

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Alright lets put it this way in future videos I will state if I got a template or not and any other needed credits. go7roo7 im not meaning to attack you in any way I realized your point of view.

Just the Saint guy first impression was of not constructive criticism but of attacking.

Its good practice to claim sources. I don't care that you used a template at all man. I am not feeling attacked at all so its all good. Constructive criticism makes 99% of people feel attacked, and especially if its on the internet.

Good video, and keep learning!

 

[Elliot G]

bsaint im on a work comp and cant see the video, but ok so two videos.

but everybody needs to settle down, and just agree that its a well done video and that next time the next video that is made any templates or copyrighted media while be cited in either the video description or in the video itself. k :bigthumbu

 

[go7roo7]

bsaint im on a work comp and cant see the video, but ok so two videos.

but everybody needs to get their egos in check, and just agree that its a well done video and that next time the next video that is made any templates or copyrighted media while be cited in either the video description or in the video itself. k :bigthumbu

My whole Idea from the start.:bigthumbu

 

[hachi]

lol considering I just joined. I did post a video I made years ago and I also posted one I made 2 weeks ago, but since you seemed to have missed it here it is again.

Autobahn DVD Trailer ~ BsaintMedia - YouTube

Nice vid but videos of cars sitting still are extremely boring. :boring: has a AWOL feel to it. You used the same shot a few times as well. Like to see what you could do at a motorsports event. Do you have any? Doesn't have to be drifting just not a car show.

 

[go7roo7]

Nice vid but videos of cars sitting still are extremely boring. :boring: has a AWOL feel to it. You used the same shot a few times as well. Like to see what you could do at a motorsports event. Do you have any? Doesn't have to be drifting just not a car show.

True, but did he have a choice in the subject matter? I mean if the event was nothing but parked cars one can imagine it might be hard to get moving car shots?

or maybe its just me...