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slide-ways-for-five-days said:
its not an early entry pullin the e brake at 75 in a straight line then turning in eather. imo your not entering till the last second anyway, so its not early entry for shit sorry buddy
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were not going straight and then turning in.. we are turning in as soon as we pull the ebrake and we hit full lock halfway before the turn :bigthumbu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6950785403918641085&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en

watch that video and when they show the Side Long technique tell me that supra truck and s13 truck arent entering early into the turn.. that is the same shit we are doing..
 
dan said:
its not an early entry if it was a switchback unless they started the slide going towards the turn by where we were starting :confused:

switchbacks are weak unless its an s-turn or technical.. doing it on a straight is stupid IMO its all about the side long ebrake
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I hate e brake. With all the life force inside of me I hate it. :p I was just doing switchbacks to switch things up a bit, and really to just see if I could do it. But I wasn't even starting my switchback from where Ali and you were entering.
 
JiujitsuDrift said:
I hate e brake. With all the life force inside of me I hate it. :p I was just doing switchbacks to switch things up a bit, and really to just see if I could do it. But I wasn't even starting my switchback from where Ali and you were entering.
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you are an exception because your car is red :)
 
dan said:
were not going straight and then turning in.. we are turning in as soon as we pull the ebrake and we hit full lock halfway before the turn :bigthumbu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6950785403918641085&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en

watch that video and when they show the Side Long technique tell me that supra truck and s13 truck arent entering early into the turn.. that is the same shit we are doing..
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I agree with slide-ways-for-five-days on this one. Those "side long" entries are not really e-brake initiated anyway. They're going from a feint to a long slide (by extending with e-brake) - technically a switchback. That's the technique I was using at Ocala and if he wishes, slide-ways-for-five-days can confirm that one (even though I suck). If there's enough straightaway for 3rd gear at this p-lot event, you'll see it in person. We can have a real early entry challenge then if you'd like - I'm game. :bigthumbu
 
maybe you misread what I posted with the link, but take a look at the Supra Truck and S13 Truck at timeline 2:12 in the video. No feint.

The video was just to give an idea of how we are pulling the ebrake to slide way before the turn. There is not enough room to feint into it at the spot so we just throw a little bit of weight transfer and then enter the turn w/ ebrake.
 
dan said:
maybe you misread what I posted with the link, but take a look at the Supra Truck and S13 Truck at timeline 2:12 in the video. No feint.

The video was just to give an idea of how we are pulling the ebrake to slide way before the turn. There is not enough room to feint into it at the spot so we just throw a little bit of weight transfer and then enter the turn w/ ebrake.
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Pay close attention, that's not an ebrake entry although he's definitely extending with ebrake. I watched it over and over before I posted. And there's more room at your triangle than Ocala, you can feint. W/e though, I'm not going to argue about a video - take my challenge.
 
dori dori said:
Pay close attention, that's not an ebrake entry although he's definitely extending with ebrake. I watched it over and over before I posted. And there's more room at your triangle than Ocala, you can feint. W/e though, I'm not going to argue about a video - take my challenge.
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I'm not trying to argue about the video, I'm arguing with the fact that slideways for five days is saying we are pulling the ebrake going in a straight line and then turning into the turn. We aren't doing that. We turn into the turn before we pull the ebrake and keep angle all the way thru-out the corner. The video was to show that we are sliding sideways in a straight line before the turn. And if you don't consider that drifting, well Formula D is the right place for you guys.

On another note;

Definately not more room at Triangle than Ocala, I've slid both. Triangle has manholes in the middle of the road since its the street. There is the same amount of room and the OGP track is much more smoother / slicker surface.

As far as your challenge, if my car is there, I'm more than ready to play :D

All I'm waiting for is extra $$$ to get it registered and insured so I can drive it to the event, everything else except coolant temp sensors is done. It's just hard to save money when I have a new POS car to pay off :sigh:
 
dan said:
I'm not trying to argue about the video, I'm arguing with the fact that slideways for five days is saying we are pulling the ebrake going in a straight line and then turning into the turn. We aren't doing that. We turn into the turn before we pull the ebrake and keep angle all the way thru-out the corner. The video was to show that we are sliding sideways in a straight line before the turn. And if you don't consider that drifting, well Formula D is the right place for you guys.
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I know what you're saying and I'm agreeing with slide-ways-for-five-days since the only proof to these entries was your picture of the asphault which showed tire marks going in a straight line for a good distance. I haven't said anything until now though b/c I'd really like to see a vid of what you all are doing - i just wanted to chime in so you all didn't think Estie had no reason to feel the way he does.

Anyway, get to the event. Its WPB, you can do it.
 
dori dori said:
I know what you're saying and I'm agreeing with slide-ways-for-five-days since the only proof to these entries was your picture of the asphault which showed tire marks going in a straight line for a good distance. I haven't said anything until now though b/c I'd really like to see a vid of what you all are doing - i just wanted to chime in so you all didn't think Estie had no reason to feel the way he does.

Anyway, get to the event. Its WPB, you can do it.
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Idk if its cuz you are a previous HICAS owner or what but to my knowledge, the front wheels are the ones that turn and the rear ones will always be parralel to each other thus making the lines straight if you have them locked up. Those pictures were just from initiation, if you actually go to the spot and see the marks, you'll see they are all // not || but seeing how we started closer to the turn first, and then moved back as the challenge grew there are a lot of diff initiation lines and if you add them all together it does look like a big || instead of //. Please don't think I'm trying to argue with you, I'm just explaining why some people might think that's what it looks like, you get me?
 
Hicas what? I never drifted with Hicas lol. From the pictures, its hard to tell what's going on - that's all im saying. You obviously agree. Vid or bust.
 
until there is soem sort of spot light out there, video will be useless because you cant seee anything except headlights... unless one day we dont work on Sunday and hit it up for a few mins in the day time with video.. otherwise you'll just have to come out saturday night one time with us to see for yourself I guess if its that important to you guys lol
 
dan said:
you are an exception because your car is red :)
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dan said:
until there is soem sort of spot light out there, video will be useless because you cant seee anything except headlights... unless one day we dont work on Sunday and hit it up for a few mins in the day time with video.. otherwise you'll just have to come out saturday night one time with us to see for yourself I guess if its that important to you guys lol
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+1
 
Its not important to me...I really don't care. Like I said already, I was just agreeing with Estie (and explaining why). The upcoming event will prove alot.
 
I really don't think it matters how you enter an early entry drift. You are always going to be using the e-brake to extend the slide. Wether you feint, clutch kick, or e-brake to start the slide, as long as the car starts sliding and it is doing what you are commanding it to do, you have done your job. My e-brake doesn't work, so I have to throw my car into the turn at the entrance or near the entrance of the turn. This weekend coming up, I will use a switchback to start the sliding.
 
dori dori said:
I agree with slide-ways-for-five-days on this one. Those "side long" entries are not really e-brake initiated anyway. They're going from a feint to a long slide (by extending with e-brake) - technically a switchback. That's the technique I was using at Ocala and if he wishes, slide-ways-for-five-days can confirm that one (even though I suck). If there's enough straightaway for 3rd gear at this p-lot event, you'll see it in person. We can have a real early entry challenge then if you'd like - I'm game. :bigthumbu
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yup^^

real early entry contest at the parking lot. we need a private purse for the winner. also if your getting full angle half way through the side brake your entry is HALF(prolly less than<) of what you are posting.
 
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idk you didnt seem too good at judging the turn when slide america was out there?? why dont you come out next saturday night with us and try again?
 
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well its an open challenge for the early entry's so you are more than welcome to come and beat us mr. link the whole city block drifter guy

so if you think you are hot stuff, come try it :bigthumbu
 
Even though what some of you guys (dori dori/slidewaysforfiveday) are saying is true. Its still impressive from where they start initiating angle. About a video, unless its in the daylight you aint gonna see shyt. :bigthumbu
 
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