Growing Threat : Radical Islam

not knocking the film, because we obviously notice the wars going down, but to say we know exactly whats behind all of this, that is false, before it was radical islam, it was communists, vietcong, it was the japs, chinese, blah blah, why does this country feel the need to step in shit, it didn't create.

daddy keeps feeding the needy but his kids are still starving. worry about home first, if you can honestly tell me any of this matters more than the decline in the economy, poverty rate, joblessness, homelessness, illiteracy, and criminal activity, then by all means stress over it but, like i said it has nothing to do with you per say, you'd just be another casualty anyway
 
Ricky Cash said:
why does this country feel the need to step in shit, it didn't create.
daddy keeps feeding the needy but his kids are still starving. worry about home first, if you can honestly tell me any of this matters more than the decline in the economy, poverty rate, joblessness, homelessness, illiteracy, and criminal activity, then by all means stress over it but, like i said it has nothing to do with you per say, you'd just be another casualty anyway
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Very well said, it's what I've been trying to say all along. Why is the U.S. in Iraq? Why does the U.S. get into situations that don't concern it? Is there something else this country is not telling us? The U.S. dollar is on the floor, people are losing their home, people are losing their jobs, banks are going bankrupt, and here they keep feeding us this radical islam bullshit, it makes me sick. We got enough problems here in America, I'm afraid of whats going to happen to the American economy, to the American people. This country has forgotten about its citizens.
 
its like i say, there is no more black or white, its not a race or creed issue anymore, its a rich or poor issue, and if you're not one of the vastly elite, like these elitists, then your voice is pretty much muffled by the gas of confusion and distraction, i so blame the media, thats why i finally put my foot down and turned off the television and turned on my mind
 
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whats thats spell
as long as they can gain ur interest and change ur views, they will do what they need, to, i bet theres nothing but subliminals and messages against people of a certain faith, maybe even innocent people
 
Ricky Cash said:
p- r- o- p- a- g- a- n- d- a

whats thats spell
as long as they can gain ur interest and change ur views, they will do what they need, to, i bet theres nothing but subliminals and messages against people of a certain faith, maybe even innocent people
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You'd have to have your head far up your ass to think this is all propaganda. Turn on the BBC news since you seem to distrust all that is American - do a search just for suicide bombers. Plenty of them and all in the name of who? Yeah, Allah.

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not knocking the film, because we obviously notice the wars going down, but to say we know exactly whats behind all of this, that is false, before it was radical islam, it was communists, vietcong, it was the japs, chinese, blah blah, why does this country feel the need to step in shit, it didn't create.
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Because if we hadn't little things like the axis forces would rule the world right now and you wouldn't even exist b/c your parents would have been executed on account of their race. Its fucking life dude. Its history.

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daddy keeps feeding the needy but his kids are still starving. worry about home first, if you can honestly tell me any of this matters more than the decline in the economy, poverty rate, joblessness, homelessness, illiteracy, and criminal activity, then by all means stress over it but, like i said it has nothing to do with you per say, you'd just be another casualty anyway
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Even in the most socialist environment, people will starve, unemployment is actually higher, and economic states fluctuate. There is no grand solution to these problems. While there are internal problems in the homeland, pretending terrorism and radical extremists don't exist is irresponsible to say the least.

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how about instead of fighting radical _____, we fight these radical christians, or they claim to be christians, but definitely are terrorist if i may say so, the klan.
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The klan. Are you kidding? I could probably connect more violent crimes to the rap music industry than the klan these days.
 
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Of course not. I'm not sure a war on terror can even be fought. Protect the homeland is how I feel. At most, have intelligence do the best they can at obtaining information. If prime operatives can be targeted, target them. I do think its a bad idea for people to be ignorant to this kind of warfare however. There are people who hate us - you, me, and anyone else living in the USA, UK, and most of Europe solely based on our "western" values. Know the enemy.
 
bro you are the anti freedom, i think you might just be in favor of a "democratic world," i know you are too intelligent to believe, most of the things you just debated me against.

that rap industry, cmon the lies being fed behind big wig record companies, all they will do is make money, so whatever makes money is what sells, (<basic economics), cuz the only crime in the rap industry is the media that promotes it and the masses that feed into that garbage on the radio, and how low of you to generalize a whole group into one, rather than the sub genre in which it derives from. i could do the same thing for rock and metal bands no. but i wont. however to compare the heinous inhuman actions of the klan to the rap industry, man u must be on dog food.

no 1 said anything about a utopia, people starve everywhere, and pestilence and joblessness and homelessness is always going to be rampant, for every top theres gotta be a bottom.

my people would still exist regardless of the axis powers, no one was fighting on our behalf, dont make it seem as if big brother was fighting some big bad bully for us, when he is one his self. history doesn;t delineate from patterns, nothing is new under the sun, and those same persons who ran the egyptian armies, and arabian armies (you know knotty head like me) would've walked the axis. and dont give me no bull crap about the greeks, where did they get their training/tactics/math from.

war on terror?, look up the violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism prevention act of 2007...in your case i would be considered a terrorist and sent off to internment camps, as a matter fact anyone who disagrees with US policy or Homeland, or that simple video on radical islam would be considered one, just off the thoughts in ur own mind, u can't even control ur own mind. not propaganda, te loco!

and for the record this is propaganda, i can guess whats going to happen next, just off prophecy, but im going to stop there, arguing with a fool, makes me no better.

keep ur eyes open man, dont be the blind man walking in front of the man hole, the truth is dead in front you but u just can't see it

and honestly what values, the only thing the west values is money!
 
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lol

I am the anti freedom.

Idk how to even respond to that. Any of it. You're all over the place! And you contradict yourself.
 
they are in order going backwards to how u responded my questions, holla, but like i said i aint gonna argue with u on this we are so off topic just read it and absorb knowledge
 
I watched this movie last night. Its actually interesting how they distributed it. The Clarion Fund mostly distributed it to swing states only. This is funny considering the subject.

Anyway... I think this movie can be considered more biased information than propaganda. At the beginning of the movie, the creators say that the movie isn't based on Islam as a whole, and mentions that Muslims are a peace loving religious people, and that the movie isn't meant to describe the religion as a whole. However, later into the movie, they do numerous interviews with scholars and politicians that basically say that radical Islam is a huge part of modern Islam, and that the beliefs of radical Islam are prevalent in everyday Islamic activities, like public schools, TV viewing and other easily accessible forms of information. The movie could have done without all of this, but since it is obviously biased, I guess it comes with the territory.

The movie is pretty well done, and personally I believe that some of the information is true, but also that some of the information is blown out of proportion. It is sort of like a opposite of Fahernheit 9/11 by Michael Moore. Somewhat ridiculous, but with a truthful method to its madness.

Islam as a whole IS a peaceful religion. Like all religions, there are radicals involved. The writings in the Qur'an, like the Bible or Tanakh, say things that are subject to misinterpretation, and it is easy to skew ideas with such powerful books. Islam, Christianity, Judaism or any other major religion is not to be blamed for what happens in our modern day, simply because of the fact that, in most cases, the translations that are read have been translated numerous times, and thus the true text lost somewhere in the process.
 
Anyone remember how Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell said that the US deserved the 9/11 attacks???? It was GOD's punishment for gays and lesbians, (I mean obviously the govt should spend money to fix these people) and for abortions, and atheists, and people not believing in the word of God anymore.....

Man God sure is a funny guy..... first he controls everything, but then he gives freewill. But then he can see everything that will ever happen, but then when it DOES happen, he get's all pissed off and spiteful. I wonder what he does in the time between when he knows people are gonna do bad shit, and when they actually do it.... does he pace back and forth deciding how much of a tantrum he is gonna throw?? Or deciding what companies airplanes should hit the WTC???

When people finally realize that belief in this guy is the root of more murder, hatred and wrong doing than anything else, and is the key motivator used by political and radical figures, to ignite violence and revolution.... then perhaps the world will stand a chance at peace.

It's amazing, the whole concept was manipulated thousands of years ago to control people and to maintain order and peace, now it is being manipulated to disturb order and peace.

US foreign policy doesnt help either...
 
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idk how u could call this war propaganda bro never do they mention us invading or continuing a fight on terror

i took it as a informational dvd basically :\
 
Thank you Sean Love, more human injustices have been committed in the name of "god" than any other reason. The Spanish Inquisition, which lasted almost 400 years, the Catholic church killed people for not being Christian. WTF? Even people who were had converted to Christianity from another religion were killed. Mathematicians and scientist were also killed for trying to "disprove" the word of God. So many people were killed in the name of God, there isn't even a record of exactly how many people were killed in those 400 years. Does this kind of remind you of some Nazi shit? Next, The Crusades, a series of wars fought by the Catholic church against mostly Muslims, but pretty much anyone who wasn't Catholic, that lasted almost 300 years. The "Holy Land" Jerusalem was under Islamic control, the Catholic church couldn't bare the thought of not owning the Holy Land also(they basically owned all of Europe at the time), so they waged a war in the name of god against Muslims and anyone else that was in their way(Jews fought alongside the Muslims, as hard as it is to believe, to defend Jerusalem). A lot of people were killed and this war lasted a very long time. There's plenty of other things the Catholic Church has done against humanity, but if I explained them all, I may as well write my own bible. It wasn't until the Renaissance, that most people had finally pulled their heads out of their asses, and started saying, we need math, we need science, we need music and art and so many other things the church won't let us do. IMO the "church" were the Nazis of Medievel time. Religion is stupid. :bigthumbu
 
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It wasn't until the Renaissance, that most people had finally pulled their heads out of their asses, and started saying, we need math, we need science, we need music and art and so many other things the church won't let us do. IMO the "church" were the Nazis of Medievel time. Religion is stupid. :bigthumbu
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And even then, the artists usually kissed ass to the church in order to avoid problems. Notice how many famous classical works are religious scenes....

And still Galileo spent the remainder of his life in exile after the church condemned him for simply putting forth the idea that the earth was NOT the center of the universe..... GASPPP.... Well gee, who turned out to be right on that one?? And I dont recall any Popes ever apologizing for that fuckup. Hell it wasnt even Galileos theory, it was Kempers, and it wasn't all that new....

Just within the last hundred years epilepsy was thought to be demonic possession. Science ain't perfect, the difference is it doesnt claim to be, and therefore it can admit when something turns out to be false, rather than murdering/silencing anyone who goes against it!



Yea, didn't quite mean to turn this into a religion thing, but the politics of any country are always heavily intertwined with the dominant religious views of said country.

Ultimately the US should stop supporting Israel because they are just as much terorists as the Palestinians, their terror just comes packaged in nice metal casings that fall from their sky, instead of strapped to 16yr olds. Oh and guess who pays for Israels armed forces, hospitals, healthcare and education system....... AMERICAN MONEY

Our tax dollars go to pay for state healthcare in other countries, and at home we have none, sweet fucking deal there!

Maybe winning WW2 wasnt such a great idea, certainly the way the cards fell after the whole thing was over really set up some drama for the future. If we ever have World War 3 it will be because of the idiots who 'settled' shit after WW2

And like Einstein said "I dont know what weapons will be used for WW3, but for WW4 it will be sticks and stones"
 
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Tonymac said:
You'd have to have your head far up your ass to think this is all propaganda. Turn on the BBC news since you seem to distrust all that is American - do a search just for suicide bombers. Plenty of them and all in the name of who? Yeah, Allah.
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turn on the BBC news???
american media does int show u everything
http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/march2003/kewearchive_march30april4_2003.html

http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/middle_east/palestine/lest_we_forget.html


here is another interesting site i found, kinda makes u wonder why people become suicide bombers, its not because the quran says to do it
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

im not saying that any one is right or wrong, but dont just listen to one side of the story,
my dad has a satelite and get a couple of channels from the middle east and if u only saw what life was like in iraq is like after the u.s got involved
 
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The Jews are just as bad as the Muslims. The only difference is that the U.S. does fund these Radical Jews. This country is and has been run by hypocrites. They back Saddam Hussein in the 60's and 70's, only to go to war against him twice and invading Iraq for no apparent reason. They back the Taliban in the late 80's, only to have a war against them in the 2000's. They are against terrorists, but they back the Israeli Jews, who commit terrorism everyday. I guess it all comes down to the U.S. definition of terrorism, at different moments in time. It's not that I'm not patriotic, but I would not be proud to serve in the U.S. military anymore.
 
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