Barack Obama PLEASE READ

Someone finally posted the correct issue with that pic.

I was busy with the bmw nissan thread

Its funny how most people give a opinion with out even researching it.

Go figure
 
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yea i was thinking maybe they took the pic before he could raise his arm just for this reason! fuckin politics! there all scumbags!!
 
Do you guys really understand it doesnt matter who you pick... Hilery obama huckabee guliani romny edwards they are all part of the same club.

2 sides of the same coin. All of them are trash except for Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul. The ones the Media say can't win. Why does the media say they can't win because the media is controlled by private interests who will stand to make a great deal of money if any of their "candidates" win, They Marginallize the truth the others are telling by labeling them as crackpots and flakes. Thats not very democratic.

Plus this is a Republic not a democracy if you don't know the difference look it up. Democracy isn't all that great and if you love it so much ask yourself why we are number 17 on the list of the most democratic countries.

Why are our elections so obviously rigged, why can we have petitions that have more than 100K signatures and have them ignored by the government

Every government official takes an oath that they will obey protect and defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies foreign and domestic. Idk the Constitution i've read says they shall write no law against free speech, We now have "free speech zones" where only there in some areas you cannot express dissent anywhere else

It also says there will be no warrantless searches, that goes on all the time. And is almost regarded as normal.

Only Congress has the ability to declare war NOT THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.
Only Gold and silver shall be legal tender, not a central bank that takes our weath from us through inflation. Not a small group of bankers that print money and drive everyone into dept for their own gain.

Seriously it doesnt matter who you elect the elites that run things will get there way and they will come closer and closer to achiveing their goal of turning you and everyone else who isnt in their clique into serfs
 
im voteing for obama. not because hes black or young or even a democrat. I say look at his stance on things important to you. plus hillary is a bitch and i belive she is doctor doom lol. bill was a great president but hillary i can't stand that bitch fake crying and playing poor pitful me after she lost the first primary. honestly i couldn't care less if he dosn't salute the flag i don't either. its pointless anyways. I never did it in school even when i was a kid. I have nothing against the country i just hate our government. Its full of rich white guys that have no idea what there talking about they tell you what you want to hear then never deliver. I honestly hope obama gets elected it will be a positive direction for this fucked up country. If you disagree with me its cool you are entitled to your opinion as i am mine. before anyone starts talking shit (flame away i dont care) you will not change my mind on the subject. thats all i have to say on the subject so good day lol
 
im voteing for obama. not because hes black or young or even a democrat. I say look at his stance on things important to you. plus hillary is a bitch and i belive she is doctor doom lol. bill was a great president but hillary i can't stand that bitch fake crying and playing poor pitful me after she lost the first primary. honestly i couldn't care less if he dosn't salute the flag i don't either. its pointless anyways. I never did it in school even when i was a kid. I have nothing against the country i just hate our government. Its full of rich white guys that have no idea what there talking about they tell you what you want to hear then never deliver. I honestly hope obama gets elected it will be a positive direction for this fucked up country. If you disagree with me its cool you are entitled to your opinion as i am mine. before anyone starts talking shit (flame away i dont care) you will not change my mind on the subject. thats all i have to say on the subject so good day lol

Nothing will change, Every president including Bill as cool a guy as he appears to be (I used to really like him till i did some real research) They all spouted change before they got elected and what do they do the same stupid shit the one before them did. Ever since JFK they have been worse and worse things have been getting worse in this country slowly but surely

Some people have said I am anti-american for saying this stuff but you know What I love my country I love where I live and I don't want to sit back and watch it go down the shitter. Thats what they have conditioned people to think oh you can't do anything by yourself we have to take care of you. More and More socialism more and more fascism. All in the name of security and democracy

BULLSHIT!!

"Anyone who would give up their liberties for some temporary security deserve neither!" - Benjamin Franklin

I really am angry that anyone could get excited about Hilery or Obama or any other member of the CFR becoming the leader of this nation.

Dick Cheney Was the president of the CFR for a long time Bill Clinton is a member George Bush Sr. and Jr. are members. They are all working together to screw you. They don't give a shit about you or your needs they want to be elected so they can take power not to help us.
 
im voteing for obama. not because hes black ....... i just hate our government. Its full of rich white guys that have no idea what there talking about they tell you what you want to hear then never deliver....

:rolleyes: Your not fooling anyone.
 
Nothing will change, Every president including Bill as cool a guy as he appears to be (I used to really like him till i did some real research) They all spouted change before they got elected and what do they do the same stupid shit the one before them did. Ever since JFK they have been worse and worse things have been getting worse in this country slowly but surely

Some people have said I am anti-american for saying this stuff but you know What I love my country I love where I live and I don't want to sit back and watch it go down the shitter. Thats what they have conditioned people to think oh you can't do anything by yourself we have to take care of you. More and More socialism more and more fascism. All in the name of security and democracy

BULLSHIT!!

"Anyone who would give up their liberties for some temporary security deserve neither!" - Benjamin Franklin

I really am angry that anyone could get excited about Hilery or Obama or any other member of the CFR becoming the leader of this nation.

Dick Cheney Was the president of the CFR for a long time Bill Clinton is a member George Bush Sr. and Jr. are members. They are all working together to screw you. They don't give a shit about you or your needs they want to be elected so they can take power not to help us.

:applause:, seriously i think i need to brush up on my history, cuz you killin em out there. i didn't know about the CFR i should look that up. its just like kerry running against bush back in '04, both them mofo are masons, and have the same agenda so even if the "people voted" him into office he would be on the same bullshit george is on. but isn't it ashame when people get their emoticons involved rather then letting truth come to light. and when god forbid someone like you presents that truth, you automatically get called this and that. correct me if im wrong i thought socialism was a good thing...

to the OP: i dont know why this thread was started, you say you dont care about peoples beliefs, but you believe you should care that obama doesn't salute the flag, and thats what you would base your vote on (on a bad pic no less)(if thats the case you dont deserve a vote, not that it would matter anyways). and even if he didn't why should he, what principles do remain or even apply that anyone should salute it. you prolly just rantin in this thread because you know of people who do the same, and came across on this pic, and felt the urge to herbal.
seriously i would suggest you spend sometime researching these secret organizations that have your "best interest" in mind rather than basing your decisions haphazardly
 
Consul on Foreign Relations / the Bilderberg Group / Free Masons

all the same group of people

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now im not saying what their doing is Evil but I do want to know why people don't ask "WHY" in these situations, Something is very very fishy when you can't find in depth information on the Internet of something that should be public
 
not evil? as far as the free masons and illuminati go, they believe that there should only be 500 million people on earth and shit, i wonder how they wanna get that accomplished. to them we are just "cattle." i dont trust any of 'em but i would rather guarantee my own liberty even if that means i have to go against 500 agents and all the police in broward and sfl get deaded
 
not evil? as far as the free masons and illuminati go, they believe that there should only be 500 million people on earth and shit, i wonder how they wanna get that accomplished. to them we are just "cattle." i dont trust any of 'em but i would rather guarantee my own liberty even if that means i have to go against 500 agents and all the police in broward and sfl get deaded

+999999999999999, but we know that a republican is gonna win and his name is ron paul 60000000 dollars for his campaign in one day! but there is a plus side to that. he is an anti-prohibitionist meaning that he thinks that marijuana being illegal is as pointless and alcohol being illegal during the alcohol prohibition. but fuck politics i just wanna chill. and live life
 
piner i actualy agree with you on the fact that nothing will change. but honestly the way i see it my vote helps to keep hillary out of office. If she becomes president its the end of the world. lol i hate the government its all corrupt. politicians to me are professional bullshiters. Nothings ever going to change poor people get poorer and the rich get richer. Its life bro. Our government is in no way a democracy. we are led to belive that our votes count but they don't. The government stages alot of bullshit to keep the public from knowing what is really going on. I have a friend that just got back from iraq. he lost his left leg fighting a meaningless war for fuckin oil. From what he told me the situation in iraq is so much more hopeless then what the government tells the media to tell us. I personaly don't watch the news because its all controled by the government and big buisness. Some people think im crazy but the truth is i am. lol (if you really know me you will agree) but for real the government sucks i going to amsterdam. lol at least there i can somke weed in peace.
 
Nothing will change,


I really am angry that anyone could get excited about Hilary or Obama or any other member of the CFR becoming the leader of this nation.

Dick Cheney Was the president of the CFR for a long time Bill Clinton is a member George Bush Sr. and Jr. are members. They are all working together to screw you. They don't give a shit about you or your needs they want to be elected so they can take power not to help us.

and what are we to do about these shadowy Cobra-esque groups masquerading as our commanders in chief? besides reading things on the "inner webs" i agree with your first statement, nothing will ever change unless you make it.

+999999999999999, but we know that a republican is gonna win and his name is Ron Paul 60000000 dollars for his campaign in one day! but there is a plus side to that. he is an anti-prohibitionist meaning that he thinks that Marijuana being illegal is as pointless and alcohol being illegal during the alcohol prohibition.

my favorite Ron Paul quotes.

"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." - Ron Paul, 1992

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992

"What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" - Ron Paul, 1992

nothing will ever change in this country or any other country unless its citizens take action to see to that change, casting imaginary ballots in an attempt to modify a system ran by the same system you despise is ludicrous, and those with the staunch anarchaic stance; your words fall upon complacent deaf ears, as always your actions will speak louder than those words, the only time a citizen has had a TRUE say in weather or not they wanted someone in power
has been at the tip of a sword, the sight of a scope, or recently the end of a rope........

i hope in the generations to come those that grow tired of this cycle lead to some radical changes, though man is far less revolutinary now...

*end of ayes' only serious post ever* :3 [*-*]
 
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piner i actualy agree with you on the fact that nothing will change. but honestly the way i see it my vote helps to keep hillary out of office. If she becomes president its the end of the world. lol i hate the government its all corrupt. politicians to me are professional bullshiters. Nothings ever going to change poor people get poorer and the rich get richer. Its life bro. Our government is in no way a democracy. we are led to belive that our votes count but they don't. The government stages alot of bullshit to keep the public from knowing what is really going on. I have a friend that just got back from iraq. he lost his left leg fighting a meaningless war for fuckin oil. From what he told me the situation in iraq is so much more hopeless then what the government tells the media to tell us. I personaly don't watch the news because its all controled by the government and big buisness. Some people think im crazy but the truth is i am. lol (if you really know me you will agree) but for real the government sucks i going to amsterdam. lol at least there i can somke weed in peace.

amsterdam sounds nice, believe me get faded quick that way when the US makes claim that amsterdam is a threat to democracy and they start attacking and staging wars, everything to you can just be a big blur. cuz believe me whatever country that isn't a "democratic" country is a threat.
matterfact george w. passed a new law during the chaos of the intentional wildfires in cali. its called the The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act , simply put they can toss you in detention centers (currently being built) indefinitely, for beliefs that the gov't deems as terrorism, it could be as simple not saluting the flag, look it up. i wonder why not a lot of people didn't hear about, oh wait they were too worried about escaping wildfires and not getting burned alive. kinda like 9/11 and homeland security, lets hope for everyone elses welfare im wrong and im just speaking nonsense
 


amsterdam sounds nice, believe me get faded quick that way when the US makes claim that amsterdam is a threat to democracy and they start attacking and staging wars, everything to you can just be a big blur. cuz believe me whatever country that isn't a "democratic" country is a threat.
matterfact george w. passed a new law during the chaos of the intentional wildfires in cali. its called the The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act , simply put they can toss you in detention centers (currently being built) indefinitely, for beliefs that the gov't deems as terrorism, it could be as simple not saluting the flag, look it up. i wonder why not a lot of people didn't hear about, oh wait they were too worried about escaping wildfires and not getting burned alive. kinda like 9/11 and homeland security, lets hope for everyone elses welfare im wrong and im just speaking nonsense

well to be honest with you if you've seen the salem witch craft trials it sounds exactly alike what you are saying because just for having more crop or animals then your nieghbor you would get convicted of praising the devil.....but yea this country is pretty serious to do that act and then make santeria an actual religion but w/e i'll probly get into this tom. but thats pretty serious....
 
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