S14 v-mount conversion?

3ddimension said:
correct me if I'm wrong but don't Aero-k have v mounts. there in sunrise. i'd hit them up if u what some ideas or help? they are a shop as well.
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they all run mid mounts, i think one of the cars had a vmount but i think they sold that car...midmount is more efficient and cheaper... i was going to run midmount, but im selling the car so leaving front mount...gl with ur build
 
midmounts great cause you can smack cones with no bumper and do no damage to your intercooler as long as you have a bumper support
 
this might help u out a bit sean!
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jerome HAD a v-mount on his car, but it was wayy to much work, especially when it comes to ur coolant hoses, its a lot of fab. so he decided to go mid mount.

joses car is a mid mount, and on the t-25 on 11psi, that bitch moves, very responsive.
 
Dr. Dooms said:
ive always run mid mounts and never had an over heating issue
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Didn't u use to have overheating problems and when u went mid mount u didn't have one anymore?

think I'm gonna go mid mount to but I want ac so I might just get a little honda condencer and mount it in front. That should work. Any input on this?
 
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i run n/a cars so this is new to me,1. but whats the point for a mid mount rather then a front mount, other u can use a bigger intercooler? 2. and (mid-mount)dosent putting the intercooler closer to the radaitor tranfer heat to the intercooler?

sorry to go off topic? just talking about intercoolers got me thinking?
 
3ddimension said:
i run n/a cars so this is new to me,1. but whats the point for a mid mount rather then a front mount, other u can use a bigger intercooler? 2. and (mid-mount)dosent putting the intercooler closer to the radaitor tranfer heat to the intercooler?

sorry to go off topic? just talking about intercoolers got me thinking?
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you get faster throttle respone and spool with mid mount cause you have short pipeing
 
SAS said:
you get faster throttle respone and spool with mid mount cause you have short pipeing
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^^this and less turbulent air...meaning the air works like a vacuum traveling through the ic and radiator......thus producing better cooling oppose to it traveling through a front mount waiting and then traveling through the radiator.......
 
Yeah shorter piping = less volume = less pressure drop = better throttle response. Lag should be slightly reduced as well.

The smaller the turbo and less boost you run, the more of a difference you'll notice in lag.

The thing about turbulent air sounds like pseudo science more than anything. I would like to see that proven before drawing any conclusions. Proper ducting should be in place w/ a fmic anyway, which should equalize any mmic advantages in that department.
 
Tonymac said:
Yeah shorter piping = less volume = less pressure drop = better throttle response. Lag should be slightly reduced as well.

The smaller the turbo and less boost you run, the more of a difference you'll notice in lag.

The thing about turbulent air sounds like pseudo science more than anything. I would like to see that proven before drawing any conclusions. Proper ducting should be in place w/ a fmic anyway, which should equalize any mmic advantages in that department.
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well like i said...i noticed about 30 degrees difference....most people dont duct front mount ic setups properly so you could be right......but it works for me so :bigthumbu
 
This is all splitting hairs anyway.

Lets say you lost 3ft of 3in piping going mid mount, that's a 0.147321ft^3 difference in volume from one to the other. Not much when you consider cfm of your turbo.

There are dyno's to back this up too...just look at a before and after dyno of a turbo'd impreza getting a FMIC (xs engineering has em). Boost response is not reduced at all, and that's going from zero feet of piping to 6+ft of piping, and a larger core.

This is like the argument about intercooler pipe diameter and velocities. Smaller piping = higher velocities, blah blah. But at the end of the day, the dynos don't back up the theories.

There are real world benefits (attn reduction, theft, protection against the outside) but like most things, its 90% hype IMO.
 
Tonymac said:
This is all splitting hairs anyway.

Lets say you lost 3ft of 3in piping going mid mount, that's a 0.147321ft^3 difference in volume from one to the other. Not much when you consider cfm of your turbo.

There are dyno's to back this up too...just look at a before and after dyno of a turbo'd impreza getting a FMIC (xs engineering has em). Boost response is not reduced at all, and that's going from zero feet of piping to 6+ft of piping, and a larger core.

This is like the argument about intercooler pipe diameter and velocities. Smaller piping = higher velocities, blah blah. But at the end of the day, the dynos don't back up the theories.

There are real world benefits (attn reduction, theft, protection against the outside) but like most things, its 90% hype IMO.
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^^ too smart for his own good lol

**hype as fuck**
 
I'm going mid mount for less attention and to get my intercooler up off the road away from the damage zone
the cooling and othershit is a bonus
 
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