Sfld Mock Election
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The_Sinister_7
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They can either give or get the hell out 
In all seriousness, how should this economic crisis be fixed?
BTW the stock market tanked yet again.
In all seriousness, how should this economic crisis be fixed?
BTW the stock market tanked yet again.
The_Sinister_7
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I dont smoke it so there for it should stay illegal, I dont care how much revenue it could generate on taxes.
Damn Hippies.
Damn Hippies.
SAS
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just cause you dont it shouldnt be legalized LMAO i smoke every fuckin day and so do alot of people if the government legalized and taxed it we could still smoke and they could decrease the defeasit its a win win. I hate hipocrites that act like smoking a plant is so bad. Its a natrualy grown plant that happens to have some awsome effects when you light it on fire. :bigthumbu
The_Sinister_7
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Whoa hold on, I forgot to add my smilies I was just kidding. Though I dont smoke weed I do think it is a waste of money and resources trying to enforce the laws against it. Lets be honest, I dont smoke weed and I am the minority, that should tell you something. I think weed is like alcohol, youll use it till you grow tired of it and a small percent of people will become alcoholics/ addict.
I never said what's right or wrong and i don't care to get into a moralistic discussion about the use/misuse of pot.
You want a solution to the economic problems? Something that can create thousands of jobs and can be taxed like a mother fucker, earning the government billions upon billions annually. I offered a solution. Seriously its already the largest cash crop in the USA. Legalize it, tax it, and rake in the profits. Is it right? That's up to you. Would it work, I'd bet a testicle.
You want a solution to the economic problems? Something that can create thousands of jobs and can be taxed like a mother fucker, earning the government billions upon billions annually. I offered a solution. Seriously its already the largest cash crop in the USA. Legalize it, tax it, and rake in the profits. Is it right? That's up to you. Would it work, I'd bet a testicle.
The_Sinister_7
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All the smart people would buy their pot off the reservation tax free.
oh so thats how the U.S. is. I guess i should just give into Big Brother no matter how corrupt they get. This has been one of the most bullshit thing i've read so far.
I don't think MaryJane should get legalized........oh and i have my reasons. Not sure who on here knows why i think that.
The_Sinister_7
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You crave it like a pot zombie?
aNna
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i know but i was fustrated. im sorry. im pretty open minded but when someone makes a general statement like the one you made it could be taken a few different, not all happy ways.
OK i was like 10% serious w/ the mj thing. It would generate a ton of revenue and tax money though.
Seriously, if anybody had an answer to the question of what to do to "fix" the economy, they better be rushing to the white house to explain it.
If it were up to me, and thank God its not (i don't handle stress well haha), I'd let the institutions burn, suffer the short term consequences, deregulate markets in a Reaganistic fashion, and go back to our free market roots.
That's why I support the economic and socioeconomic views of Libertarians like Ron Paul and Constitutionalists like Chuck Baldwin. Not to the full extent of laissez faire capitalism, but certainly less bs than we have now. Its why we developed the way we did and why countries like South Korea have mimicked our fundamentals with great success.
Seriously, if anybody had an answer to the question of what to do to "fix" the economy, they better be rushing to the white house to explain it.
If it were up to me, and thank God its not (i don't handle stress well haha), I'd let the institutions burn, suffer the short term consequences, deregulate markets in a Reaganistic fashion, and go back to our free market roots.
That's why I support the economic and socioeconomic views of Libertarians like Ron Paul and Constitutionalists like Chuck Baldwin. Not to the full extent of laissez faire capitalism, but certainly less bs than we have now. Its why we developed the way we did and why countries like South Korea have mimicked our fundamentals with great success.
SAS
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All the smart people would buy their pot off the reservation tax free.
I take offense to that because im Cherokee and I have family that lives on the reservation shits not cool. Its seriously a fucked up place.
The_Sinister_7
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You are wound up tight today. I wasnt trying to be offensive. Can I or can I not drive to Hollywood and get cigarettes a lot cheaper there then anywhere else? They dont have to pay tax on them or something so they sell for less then everywhere else, I just thought the same would be true for pot.
Man I happen to have some indian blood too. Not as much as you though I bet.
We agree on something at least. So would that make me not a total moron?
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metaru_gia
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It's Ok, I understand how someone could get pissed off over a comment they disagree with. It happens to everyone, it happens to me. I just tell myself, everyone's entitled to their opinion. It's what makes threads like this one so interesting.
I disagree with the legalization of Marijuana. This country has enough problems with Alcoholics and people drinking and driving. I don't think it's a good idea to bring Marijuana to the picture.
We agree on something at least. So would that make me not a total moron?
I don't think you're a moron. You hold true to your socialistic values but I do have a problem with the fundamentals of the argument.
For example: you keep talking about helping your fellow Americans by spreading the wealth through higher taxes.
Well, the people who really NEED help can get it. There are enough government funded welfare and reform programs existing today to ensure that. That's why you don't see breadlines and starving people in this country.
The socialistic values presented by Obama and his supporters do not hide the fact that they're about helping the middle classs. The average middle class earner in this country can easily sustain life for himself (house, clothes, food, etc) and have money to spare. They earn between $25k and $100k, with a mean of over $35k. So what we're really talking about here is providing wealth to a class that is already considered, by world standards, wealthy. OK so they can't afford a bigger house, newer car, and top of the line home entertainment. My heart's not bleeding here.
I'm sorry but I think its arrogant to worry about these people when there are people around the world who risk death with each sip of water they take. Consider the vast amount of the world's population lives in poverty. Of that population, the vast majority earn under $1 /day. There are disease epidemics, famine, genocide, etc all around the world. I would much rather contribute, on my own free will, to charities and organizations who's primary focus is helping these people...the people who really need it. And I don't feel antiamerican for believing that.
metaru_gia
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I see what you're saying Tony, the main reason I'm voting for Obama is because he "says" he's going to end this stupid war in Iraq, but on the whole issue of redistributing wealth, I agree with what you say. The government has plenty of programs to help out the people who need it. I know, because I've been through it. This government has done a lot for me and my family, and it has done a lot for others. The middle class already makes enough money to live comfortable lives. These programs are great, but from experience, I have seen there is a lot of corruption, and these systems can be made to run better and more efficiently. Both these assholes should talk about that, how to make these government programs better.
I speak of programs like Medicaid, it is available to low income parents, children, and the elderly, but it should also be available to individuals who make very little. There's also a lot of corruption, not only by people working for Medicaid, but by people receiving Medicaid as well. Other programs like low income housing and employment assistance should be made more readily available for people who need it. Instead of giving people the run around. This country already has a great system initiated on how to help those who need help. Now all they have to do is make these programs better for its citizens.
The_Sinister_7
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It may come across like I want them to give A LOT more then there share, in reality what I really mean is for them just to give enough to keep everything on the level. What really bugs me is I dont think the working class gets enough. You have to have lower level people to keep the world running but at the same time the lower level shouldnt just be getting by and I dont mean paying Mcdonalds employees enough to buy a house or even enough to live on their own (Those jobs adults shouldnt work, if you are an adult with a high school diploma and work at a fast food place or a bag boy then you dont deserve to live on your own) We all seem to fixate on the tax issue, if they can raise middle class earnings (or lower the cost of living) just I tiny bit it would make a huge difference in a lot of lives. If they can do it without higher taxes great, I am all for it. Not every rich person is bad either, there are just some corporate people out there that really abuse their power, I dont believe the government should police the companies but it seems like companies cant be trusted to do anything decent. I dont mean all companies of course, but the ones really screwing people and fing things up should have to pay and thats why I dont agree with the bailout, they basically got rewarded for being irresponsible.
I also just believe every American should be able to get health care weather they can afford it or not. I just cant see how in this day and age something cant be done.
The best way to raise earnings and standards of living is through education and deregulation of markets (open to trade/investments).
I believe in attacking problems from the ground up.
If we want a stronger middle class and higher standards of living, our country should invest heavily on education.
Health care needs more regulation for sure - I agree, everyone deserves an opportunity for affordable health care.
But it is counterproductive, to me, to cut funding from the very institutions that provide jobs, wealth, and investment for our country.
I believe in attacking problems from the ground up.
If we want a stronger middle class and higher standards of living, our country should invest heavily on education.
Health care needs more regulation for sure - I agree, everyone deserves an opportunity for affordable health care.
But it is counterproductive, to me, to cut funding from the very institutions that provide jobs, wealth, and investment for our country.
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