Roll center good read!

It's actually pretty damn simple.

The best possible way to lower a car would be this:

Cut stub axles off the spindles/uprights, move them up however much you want to lower the car, weld them back on. That's not a realistic approach because it will break, but it is accurate.

Every single piece out there sold for fixing roll center, bumpsteer, camber correction, etc etc would be useless if you could just buy drop spindles for every car. In the rear it's the same but you have to move the whole bearing assembly vertically in the upright. Which then leads to issues of clearance with the CV and axles to the control arms. That's why in many cases it is simpler to simply raise the subframe.

A simple rule of thumb for most cars is this: If the lowest arm (front or rear) is angled below level with the ground, then you should start thinking about adjusting your roll center. This means pretty much any slammed 240sx on anything bigger than 15's.
 
Why cant they make parts like that for my car? I am gonna contact PBM soon to see how much for someshit for the 9...
 
i like the box lca idea, i dont know why lol.... also i watched extreme 4x4 a couple months back and they showed how to make adjustable rods,,, different vehicles yes but same concept....we need more engineers imo,,,maybe i should be one
 
:laugh: I know how to fab to an extent, but not making knuckles and or modifying them.. Maybe one day, but cars with alot of support mean to many people has them :)


Ford Sierra aka Merkur XR4Ti, incredible aftermarket support, one of the most raced and rallied cars of the 80's-90's. The later Escort Cosworth is actually a Sierra chassis with an Escort body attached. Still I have yet to see one at a drift event.
 
yeah pretty simple to understand

Low center of gravity = good
High roll center = good

when you lower a car with struts the roll center moves alot and it always goes lower. The farther the roll center is away from the center of gravity the more body roll you will have due to roll couple (the leverage on the imaginary line between the roll center and the COG) so thats why your coilovers have very stiff springs is to compensate for that. So in theory if you raise your roll center back up or near where it was supposed to be you could run softer springs and have better contact with the pavement equaling more grip.


Most every 240 on this forum could benefit by raising their roll centers. It's one of the reason's I never completely slammed my bimmer (there is another inch to go on the coils) because I don't want to create a roll center issue since the rear suspension of my E36 the roll center doesn't move as much as the front does when lowered.

Differences in the roll couple front to rear can have an effect on the understeer and oversteer bias, if the rear roll center is higher than the front then there will be more roll resistance and more oversteer and visa versa with the front.

This stuff is just the basics of performance suspension really
 
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