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ok i know i might get flamed by this but o well here goes... im a newb at drifting but i can get angle and im really proud on the proccess ive done... my next step is an event... but i have a question for the older and wiser drifters. i want to know how to learn a racing line. when i drift i can come in early get angle and take the hole turn sideways but i knwo theres more to drifting than that and i want to learn the racing aspect to it.. any one have tips tricks or things to rember on learning the race line? thanx in advance.
 
why would this get flammed? Its a good question.. one actually about drifting... (which is rare to read) :D goodluck
 
drift = oversteer which is a great way to keep your car moving through turns or corners without having to slow down so much and to keep those high rpms thats y u see in rally the cars barely lose speed wen getting around turns sidewayz

p.s. if u wanna learn more read any gran turismo booklet lol
 
"The best of the best however have combined both of the above. " - from article

i want to learn a line that i can be aggressive on track races but in drift events have amazing angles. :bigthumbu lol i know it takes practice but any certain spots ur looking for ...

lets use an example turn i know and a turn most ppl know.. the main turn on the triangle. wats ur approach?


p.s. if u wanna learn more read any gran turismo booklet lol


hell yeah i got that game bout 14 and read it over and over made me a better driver on the game and kinda thought me something bout racing.gt3 my car inspiration.
 
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racing line is the fastest line through a turn. the line changes depending on the turn road condition etc...but its basically wide > apex > wide.
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you can follow the same racing line while drifting and it will be faster than drifting on the outside of the corner or just ignoring the line altogether
 
The turn at the triangle is a turn that drift will be of high angle, and lower speeds. Since I have no suspension mods, crap for tires, and low power, I enter my drift very drifferently from everyone else. I usually use a combination of feint and clutch kick, or feint and and shift lock. I usually hit the apex of the turn right in the middle of the turn. My front bumper sometimes grazes the grass, I might even drop the front left tire into the grass. As I exit, I start going wide into the outside of the turn, most of the time I drop my rear tire, maybe even tires, on the dirt. That is how I usually execute a successful drift at the triangle.

People with more power and working e-brakes come in differently, but I'll let them explain how they do it.
 
wen i come in at the triangles i come in bout mid third and about ten feet or so and i use the ebrake..... i apex around the stop sign ( half the ppl outside think im going to hit it) but my problem is the ending sometimes i wont go wide out it just stays in... ive seen for ex juan (xero 240) and he gets close to the trees and carries out speed at the end.. mind u im singal cam and open diff. could that be my prob y im not hitting the lines??
 
just remeber this the wider you can come into a turn the faster you can take it (for the most part)..... the pic posted above is a good way to see what i mean and just like that pic is a 90 degree turn its pretty much the same for a 45 degree or so on.....

on S turns the race line would almost look like a str8 line... reason being that its the fastest way to hit both Apex's......

a really good way to learn how to judge what race line you should run is to hit up some auto X events.... since there your not worrying about sliding you can concentrate on running the line and practine hiting apex after apex....

what car you drive.....
 
hum cant remember if ive seen you there..... well hope what i wrote help.... theres alot more to it but i think you get the idea...
 
yeah pretty much ... im not one of the old school people i went there the alot after the event happend mostly on saturdays.. i have that idea now i just need like hours on turns and hit it right. cuz thats my problem rite now is exiting the turn.... i would show a video but i dont know how to upload dam video to my comp frm my cam :confused: any help and ill show u then and maybe someone can tell me how to exit better.
 
well i got to go to autozone in hialeah now i dont know if you live far from there or not but if you want we can met up there and talk some shit.....
 
i live in miami gardens but hialeah was my old town... yeah deff i got some spots talk some shit and make a better driver atta me lol .... which street
 
the 24 hour autozone..... just met me there bro... im gonna head out in about 10 mins so just met me there text me your number..... names frank 786-777-9464.... see ya in a while..... bring the cam too....
 
I say invest your money into suspension and LSD. Drifting open diff is not impossible, but it tends to slow the car down towards the end of the drift. Maybe that is what is holding you from coming back to the outside after the apex.
 
lol drez someother time i was thinking later on like in a week ... i kinda got a bit of law trouble (eluding an officer)so i cant drive but thurs lmk ill bring cam and a fellow drifter too. .... yeah open diff not all that great i got a j30 waiting so this weekend it goes on and wen im legal to drive again u know the first thing im doing is going to my spot and trying it out.
 
open dif sucks for after the apex.........deal with that first and the line will find you. hopefully.

autocross isnt the best place to learn a racing line. its always seems to me that suspension and sticky as fuck tires makes more of a different in autocross then a racing line. In road racing the line is everything. It is very very common that most people and that includes people into autosports have no clue of a proper racing line. around a 90 degree turn yeah but complicated multiple turns they have no fucking clue. shit some of the guys i ride with are fast as shit in the turns but still have no clue.
 
the reason why a racing line on a road course is much more important to follow then on an autocross track is because an auto cross track is smaller with not much room for deviation of where you can drive. On a road course you have alot more room to gather speed, brake turn in and accel out. Road courses have longer straits. Most of the time you will be driving a strait line, so you must drive on that strait line as fast as you can. The fastest way through a corner is to follow the largest radius, aka enter on the outside of the turn, point the car towards the apex then straiten out the steering wheel as you exit to the out side of the turn. You need to have the line you want to take already in your head so while you are coming up to the turn you have a game plan of what to do. Practice driving around safe corners from the outside, apex (center of turn), then to returning to the outside of the exit. You will notice you do not have to turn the wheel as much when you follow a text book racing line opposed to staying in your lane. wider is better, for the most part, depending on the series of turns.

One of the books that I have read is Going Faster by Skip Barber. It covers alot of information with diagrams that make sense. That book will describe anything we say over the internet 100 times better.
 
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