PBM Subframe risers

[s0loWkooPi]

On their website they claim that the PBM Subframe risers will lower your car 1/2". Is this true? Will it tuck my wheel more?

Thanks.

 

[Living4surf]

Dan told me yes but only the rear obviously

 

[s0loWkooPi]

yeahh but is it REALLY noticeable? Like 1/2" is pretty substantial.

 

[mongooze]

if your talking about theses

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?17

it dosnt lower your car. IT RAISES the subframe and raises the roll center to improve suspension geometry on lowered cars. the only way you can change your ride height is by the shock/spring, coilover or relocating the mounting points of the shock/coilover.

 

[JS]

^That. But there still pretty cool tho. Worth it IMO.

 

[mongooze]

^That. But there still pretty cool tho. Worth it IMO.

I got em , they are tits.

 

[JS]

^Yea I just have regular solid ones. Still amazing lol, but these are def better.

 

[Living4surf]

if your talking about theses

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?17

it dosnt lower your car. IT RAISES the subframe and raises the roll center to improve suspension geometry on lowered cars. the only way you can change your ride height is by the shock/spring, coilover or relocating the mounting points of the shock/coilover.

That's what I think too but talking to dan at Pbm he told me to stat at the same rear height you have to raise the car a little in the rear. Doesn't make sense to me just passing on what I was told

 

[mongooze]

That's what I think too but talking to dan at Pbm he told me to stat at the same rear height you have to raise the car a little in the rear. Doesn't make sense to me just passing on what I was told

he lied to you.

 

[homeskillet305]

It'll give you a little more positive camber without touching the arms and change your toe a bit. But like others said won't change the ride hieght.

 

[mongooze]

It'll give you a little more positive camber without touching the arms and change your toe a bit. But like others said won't change the ride hieght.

What? who lied to you

 

[homeskillet305]

if you move the subframe without moving the kuckles it changes the angle of the arms. For example when the suspension travels you gain negitive camber correct? so moving it in the other direction has the oppisite affect.

lol no one lied to me

It might not be a big diffrence but just incase your anal about things like that.

 

[87redz13]

all they do is raise the subframe in attempt to get your suspension arms closer to the angles they were designed to work at they will not effect ride height
their sole purpose is to wake your suspension geometry better with a slammed car