new forza 2 vid up from GDC....

INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 minutes worth of "graphical" mumbo jumbo gargabe and showing how their revolutionary real time damage physics still bounce cars off a wall head on at 80+ with a scuffed bumped and wobbly steering.

I hate forza. I was really gonna give this one a shot because of Sebring........such a letdown. I guess the best console racing simulator consists of 1000 layers of stickers and car auctions.
 
You always seemed to think the reason I Say the game is more realistic is because it has damage and that couldn't be farther from the truth, I could care less if forza looked better or had damage I play for the damn physics and the AI doesn't cheat. Im sorry but the physics in GT3 and GT4 are inherently Flawed in a Big way, The easiest example is why is it not possible to do a Counter steer donut. Try it, its harder than shit even with a steering wheel. Any one with a brain can do it in real life. Also Tire grip in The GT series Games are you either have or you don't, instant loss of traction. Oh and maybe the triggers on the Xbox controller are superior to the stupid X button for the throttle when you get used to it. And there is nothing that simulates drifting as well as the forza Physics engine. Just because you suck at it doesn't mean it's bad, Sure it takes hours of practice but dosen't real drifting?
 
Forza has great drifting physics. GT4 is no where near correct when it comes to drifting. GT3 was pretty good. Something about Forza is just fun as hell.
 
i played forza and the physics are crap compared to Live For Speed (cheezy name i know) for the computer. i know forza is pretty in depth with settings and whatnot but the physics still seem a bit arcadey to me. Im sorry but Live for speed has the best physics and is the most hardcore racing sim of LIIEEEFEEE!!!



fanboying done.
 
Yeah Live for speed is good, I just can't bring myself to buy a damn steering wheel just for it though. I can't play it on keyboard or with the mouse.
 
Piner said:
You always seemed to think the reason I Say the game is more realistic is because it has damage and that couldn't be farther from the truth, I could care less if forza looked better or had damage I play for the damn physics and the AI doesn't cheat. Im sorry but the physics in GT3 and GT4 are inherently Flawed in a Big way, The easiest example is why is it not possible to do a Counter steer donut. Try it, its harder than shit even with a steering wheel. Any one with a brain can do it in real life. Also Tire grip in The GT series Games are you either have or you don't, instant loss of traction. Oh and maybe the triggers on the Xbox controller are superior to the stupid X button for the throttle when you get used to it. And there is nothing that simulates drifting as well as the forza Physics engine. Just because you suck at it doesn't mean it's bad, Sure it takes hours of practice but dosen't real drifting?
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Forza to me played like pole position for the atari. Everything about the game urked me. 30fps, shitty feel of speed, and horrible steering feel come to mind. I can do "counter steer donuts" in GT3 all day but who the fuck cares. I thought the triggers were too tight, it was hard to lay anything down that wasnt full throttle or brake. The car sucked at moving, and it looked like even more shit. You remember when FZero came out on SNES, and the car wasnt what was actually moving. I thought of Forza as a realistic FZero. Even then I enjoyed FZero more than I enjoyed playing Forza.

As for drifting I still think GT3 holds more ground than forza *or any racing game period* I tried everything possible to like Forza and I just couldnt do it. For what it should have been, it just wasnt. I didnt buy Forza for the drifting *which seems like only requires tire pressure changes* I bought it because they hyped this shit as the monster GT killer. To this day its still

GT3 - drift
GT4 - grip

Take your own advice about not liking things because you suck at it. You prefer one series as do I. Forza was a letdown, GT4 was as well. Not nearly as bad though.
 
I never said I suck at GT4 or GT3 they were the gold standard until I started playing forza, I was 76% through GT4 Before i started playing Forza And I Now have about 180 hours of game time in forza and Im still getting better at it. I beat Rob Flemming on the rally challenge at the enjuku BBQ, and I barely ever used the steering wheel before then.
 
yeah the physics were 60fps and now they are gonna be running at 360fps, so the imputs will be alot smoother.
 
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