lsd or welded diff

datmiataboi said:
does anything happen when drifting with an open diff does it mess anything up???an is it harder to drift with an open diff??? get back at me thanks josh
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I used to drift open diff for a while when i first got my car and when i changed my diff i noticed that the left axle part that connects to the diff had the bearings coming thru, im guessing b/c that was the power wheel and all the stress from drifting would go right to it, and it was only the left side and 2 of my freinds had the same thing happen to them when they used to drift with open diff, so i guess that happend from drifting open diff, so i mean it can be done but u can only take left turns and u cant really keep it goin unless u clutch kick the hell outta it.
 
That's really weird, I've never experienced a problem with my Open Diff, and I am probably one of the most aggressive drivers on the forum aside from a few, and never once did open diff break anything.. maybe my line a few times when I tried to power over.

As far as 2ways go, I can't really say much since I've only driven with one once... I would suggest if you want to get a lot better at car control, you practice the hell out of open diff and ebrake
 
I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure I destroyed my open diff already. If you dump the clutch in my car you can feel the driveshaft spinning freely from inside the car and a second later it catches traction and the car jumps.

But that's because I drive a BMW.... and aside the fact that it sucks, I rape the living **** out of it just like you do your Nissan lol!

However I will agree that open diff is the best practice for a newcomer.
 
truejdm said:
harder to drift with open dif? id say a lil cause you can only take like left turns cause all the power is goin to one wheel i love my vlsd. it doess me goooood
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that's really wrong, you can do any side turns with an open diff, the thing is when you want to prolong your drift and angle with just stomping the gas it wont work because eventually one tire is getting more power than the other by a huge difference. you can still drift any directions left or right without a problem
 
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Um.... it slides fine both ways Captain?
 
who that nigga sittin next to that guy with out a front end? me :D

...anywho i think it all matters to how much money you got and how you feel about the situation. i honestly dont give a darn and i honestly dont care for street use on my car so i am looking into getting my diff welded. if you have the money and are a panzy and dont like to hear klacking noises while you making a U turn then go ahead get your diff welded. as long as they do the right job. i know of a site of a team taht swears by it. the site is www.shockdrifting.com and they swear by it so much that one of the memebers has one on his daily driving s14. if you ship your diff to them they gaurantee the diff to never fail on you, thats how professionally it gets treated. and in my case i have my vlsd that came stock in my car but i will soon be betting an open diff and have it welded and see whats up. it will be less to get the open diff and try it than to get a 2 way for my car. and if it brakes then it brakes and i still have my vlsd that came stock. the reason why i like it is becuase its always on lock basically and its totally predictable. and you say its the same with a 2way? ok but its still cheaper with welding it so i would do that first. if it works it works if not i learned my lesson and i will get a 2way.
 
im starting to get the whole picture of the welded, non welded differential but i have a question... i go to school in detroit and it snows like hell 4 months out of the year and i was thinking of welding my differential, would i have any problems in the snow or would it be a better idea just to leave the open differential, btw i have a stock sr5 corolla and i was hoping to get the GTS rear end next summer when i get back from school..
 
how easy do people snap axles? I've seen a lot of rear end accidents and been in some and never snapped an axle... I bent one but I was doing 70mph entry speeds and hit something, but other than that I've never snapped an axle or bent one crashing or anything
 
about the snapping axels crap......... umm maybe when you have 400hp and are clutch kicking 265, tread wear 200 in the rear in the middle of 3rd to break the tires loose. Enjuku sponsored driver, matt back vass, blew the splines on his 3rd gear in one of the formula d quailifyings, his car is very simalar to the one i expressed above. I have never ever heard of anyone snapping an axel from a curb or something of that sort.

Welded diffs are as strong as the welder....... the r200 diff that comes in the 240's shatters with around 420whp launching at the track with slicks for 6 months. My dad has welded too many foward differentials on awd talons making 550awhp drag cars and no one has ever had a problem, their cryotreated gears have broken before their front welded differential did. Ive only been welding about 6 months and if i welded a diff it probably wouldnt last 550 awhp as to someone who has been welding almost 22 years. Please, i dont want to hear any more of this bull**** about welded diffs breaking, PERIOD. Just find a reliable source to have your diff welded if that floats your boat.


there are advantages of an open diff and a vlsd over a welded diff. The same way there are different charictoristics of a 2 way vs a 1.5 way. Ride in the cars see what it feels like.

my experiance, if you drift on and off, wait about 10 months before you get a lsd..... figure out how to be better with the handicap of a open diff. If i rushed to get a lsd after my first event there is no way in hell i would be at the skill level i am now. open diff teaches you refinded steering techniques and when you can lay into the throttle. do what you want but i advise suspension as the first mod, then a lsd after you have at least 6 months of practise.

you can drift with an open diff!

and rwdrift..... after 8 months of solid beating on my car and breaking my automatic transmission, i inspected the whole rear end, hubs, cv joints, ring gear, pinion gears, out put shafts. Everything was with in tolerance according the nissan fsm. If the diff has the proper amount of fluid in it, i really dont see how it could go bad after the life time of any of us drifting. But hey maybe i baby my car compared do the rest of everyone, or maybe dont have as many miles (100k, 20k slide miles in a year).
 
and rwdrift..... after 8 months of solid beating on my car and breaking my automatic transmission
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drifting an automatic car why wuld u even waste ur time driftin that **** :eek:
 
cuz not everyone was lucky enough to find a 5sp s14.. and he is well known for kicking most of the 5sp guys asses with his stock KA automatic open diff
 
sliderbeez said:
and rwdrift..... after 8 months of solid beating on my car and breaking my automatic transmission
:mad:
drifting an automatic car why wuld u even waste ur time driftin that **** :eek:
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because not everyone knows how to work around not having hard shifts and the ability to keep in the same gear. Imagine having to learn about your steering and throttle control when the car up and down shifts in the middle of your drift. ( of course i can control what gear im in to an extent but its practise to know about what can happen. )

secondly im not a 5spd nazi as some of the people that "drift" and "drag".

its kinda the same arguement of "why the **** would you even try drifting an open diff".

i dont have to explain my self to you, if you want to see an auto drift, just show up at the event and watch.
 
I just found out I have LSD while my car was getting its oil changed. I rolled one of the rear tires and noticed the other rear tire rolls the opposite way. Is it LSD or VLSD?-Thanx
 
suislide240sx said:
I just found out I have LSD while my car was getting its oil changed. I rolled one of the rear tires and noticed the other rear tire rolls the opposite way. Is it LSD or VLSD?-Thanx
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Neither. If you had LSD/VLSD then both wheels would be spinning the same direction. What you have is open diff.
 
JeepsteR118 said:
powned :D !
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And how.

Great.... you have open diff. Now go out there and learn how to really slide. Just dont leave it in 1st and let skill make up for the difference ;)

sliderbeez said:
and rwdrift..... after 8 months of solid beating on my car and breaking my automatic transmission
:mad:
drifting an automatic car why wuld u even waste ur time driftin that **** :eek:
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Because someone that really drifts can drift with any handicap posed by the car. All cars have their handicaps. A real driver is able to make the best out of anything that is given to them.

And Rick, my open diff would probably be a lot better had I ever changed the fluid. But I kinda slack on it's maintenance so it gives me an excuse for an LSD. Never have I read of a diff take a ****, even on turbo e30 forums. I baby my car where it deserves attention, not where it can be improved. :)
 
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one more thing if hachi bill can drive from tampa to hialeah. slide all day. and drive back and do the same with ocala with tuned sr i am pretty sure noone here with ka power is gonna have a problem with axles or difs breakin. thanks greazy that place is pretty close to my crib
 
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