when drifting at slow speeds i can get a lot of angle, but once i hit a certain speed i can't countersteer has much so i can't maintain the drift. I had a lot of problems on the first corner last weekend at the nopi tryouts cause of this.
Can anybody help me with my s2000?
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your describing the learning process. just keep going at it. Keep sliding small stuff successfully and gradually move up.
AR
Banned
from the looks of it... u were entering with decent speed. but u tried for too aggressive of an intiation, giving u too much angle QUICKLY, thus u would spin. The other issue was you werent within your cars power range.. u cant drift the s2k in 2nd at 3500 rpms.. not gunna happen easily, when ur doing smaller curves ur in 1st and hittin the top of it, thus it slides better for u
next time... dont try and do the WHOLE oval, just work on a late initation near the end of the curve and work ur way back. baby steps or... u could crash if u try to hard to fast
next time... dont try and do the WHOLE oval, just work on a late initation near the end of the curve and work ur way back. baby steps or... u could crash if u try to hard to fast
The S2000 is not an easy car to slide. Its short travel steering rack makes for very little angle and you run out of it before you even know it. That and you're not making power unless you're between 6-8k. So trying to hold a drift between those RPMs with little countersteer is very hard. But any car can be slid with enough practice. 
nfs_emo_fag
Driver
i remeber chelsea coming up to me after drifting your car and saying " i finally found a car that is harder to drift than the fc" see about maybe getting a steering angle kit. it made all the difference on my fc......
Charlie a.k.a. Chuck
Driver
ask josh since he drove your car before.
I say autocross autocross autocross and come practice on the Kart track its somewhere that i can teach you throttle control and initiation safely. Autocross is to teach you momentum, foot brake adjustments and your cars limits. oh and throttle lift oversteer. you get to learn all kinds of shit when you are driving it as fast as you can.
Charlie a.k.a. Chuck
Driver
^ there you go
Lay off the gas a bit. That was the run where you had us all worried you were gonna nail the wall.
Thanks
Thanks everybody for ur feedback and tips. :bigthumbu
Thanks everybody for ur feedback and tips.
:bigthumbu
Get the car on a lift and turn the wheels all the way. Find out what is stopping them from going further.
If something is hitting something else, see if you can cut/trim or even remove that piece. Of course dont go cutting important things such as control arms etc..
If nothing is touching anything else visibly, then remove the inner tie rod boots on the steering rack and see what is stopping the rack from moving more.
On a lot of racks, the rack itself can go further, but the part of the inner tie rod that bolts to it, hits the rack housing. To fix this you need to make spacers, or have the inner machined so it can slide into the rack tube just like the rack bar itself slides inside.
If the inner tie rod is not contacting anything on the rack, then chances are that the rack simply can't go further because it doesnt have any more teeth cut into it
to fix this you can:
1-have more teeth machined into it
2-change to a different steering rack (not easy)
3-modify the spindles, so that the outer tie-rod mounts closer to the steering axis.
With option 3 your rack will still move the same, but for each mm of travel, it will pull the spindle more degrees because of the shorter lever arm. This will increase your steering ratio meaning less turns lock-to-lock, but increase steering effort also.
My BMW has this done to it and I can get some big angle now, if I want more I need to make longer control arms because my tires hit the inner frame. This is with only shortening the steering arm by 30%.
If you choose option 3, make sure you have a qualified fabrication shop do it, because the welds need to be good, and both sides need to be identical.
Oh and like everyone else said, just keep at it.
By the way I am the guy who you gave a ride across the street from Pizza Hut to the gas station at DriftFury Charlotte county.
Also I drifted a blue S2000 at the Hialeah Slide event back in 2004 and I liked the cars dynamics a lot. I never really noticed a lack of steering angle, the car is just very responsive so you have to be smooth and controlled with your inputs. It could also use a lysholm supercharger to give the damn thing some real bottom end.
If something is hitting something else, see if you can cut/trim or even remove that piece. Of course dont go cutting important things such as control arms etc..
If nothing is touching anything else visibly, then remove the inner tie rod boots on the steering rack and see what is stopping the rack from moving more.
On a lot of racks, the rack itself can go further, but the part of the inner tie rod that bolts to it, hits the rack housing. To fix this you need to make spacers, or have the inner machined so it can slide into the rack tube just like the rack bar itself slides inside.
If the inner tie rod is not contacting anything on the rack, then chances are that the rack simply can't go further because it doesnt have any more teeth cut into it
to fix this you can:
1-have more teeth machined into it
2-change to a different steering rack (not easy)
3-modify the spindles, so that the outer tie-rod mounts closer to the steering axis.
With option 3 your rack will still move the same, but for each mm of travel, it will pull the spindle more degrees because of the shorter lever arm. This will increase your steering ratio meaning less turns lock-to-lock, but increase steering effort also.
My BMW has this done to it and I can get some big angle now, if I want more I need to make longer control arms because my tires hit the inner frame. This is with only shortening the steering arm by 30%.
If you choose option 3, make sure you have a qualified fabrication shop do it, because the welds need to be good, and both sides need to be identical.
Oh and like everyone else said, just keep at it.
By the way I am the guy who you gave a ride across the street from Pizza Hut to the gas station at DriftFury Charlotte county.
Also I drifted a blue S2000 at the Hialeah Slide event back in 2004 and I liked the cars dynamics a lot. I never really noticed a lack of steering angle, the car is just very responsive so you have to be smooth and controlled with your inputs. It could also use a lysholm supercharger to give the damn thing some real bottom end.
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awesome support guys thank you.