yea, DToYsMK3 is rite. When u take the couse they go thru all 8 areas of the ASE, but you do not get ase certified. You have to go and take them yourself. The only thing with the t-ten program is that its about 2yrs long, twice the amount of money, and you have to be accepted to the program. and yea u also need 2 ase's to graduate